constant crashing when recording

[ironman]

hello my cubase crashes very often more than should, even on very very light projects, it happens whenever i record something, midi usually and then i press stop or the record button to stop recording and the track continues to play and no way to stop exept close cubase forcibly which after this lots of times a quick blue skreeen pops up and my comp restarts

[nightscope]

hello my cubase crashes very often more than should, even on very very light projects, it happens whenever i record something, midi usually and then i press stop or the record button to stop recording and the track continues to play and no way to stop exept close cubase forcibly which after this lots of times a quick blue skreeen pops up and my comp restarts

As has been been stated many times on this forum, the most important thing to check out first is whether your Scope card/s is/are sharing any IRQ's with anything else. Goto Device Manager>View>Resources by connection>Interrupt request (IRQ). This will list the IRQ's for your computer. Scope should not be sharing, i.e. having the same IRQ number, as anything else.

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[spacef]

could also be a midi feedback loop (midi out goes to midi in infinitely, causeing midi overload and crash with infinite sustain). Might worth checking the routing of your project/midi track.

[ironman]

i think ur right space f about midi out going to midi in infinitely, becaus e now all the time when im playing something the note stays systained even when i let go of the key on my midi keyboard, and the only way to stop it is pressing reset under device manager in cubase. my routing looks fine in scope, ive got midi source to seq midi dest and seq midi source to midi dest. any ideas on how to solve this??
cheers

[spacef]

>>>ive got midi source to seq midi dest and seq midi source to midi dest

there may be a loop in the things i've put in colors (i don't know what it is but may be the midi dest goes back to midi input in a way or another ? this can be the case if it is a synth that you ue as midi keyboard and sound player at the same time ?
If your midi keyboard (midi source) is different from the external equipment (midi dest) then it is something else.
If it is the same equipment, then may be try to disconnect the "seq midi source" from the "midi dest",and try playing something else like a vst or scope synth, tosee if the behavior is the same. Or there could be a setting on that machine (local on/off, or receive on//off or something like that which allows to "disconnect" the midi keyboard from the sound bank midi channels (it's been a long time since i've used external synths etc, so i don't know).

If you can, try a usb midi connection for the midi keyboard, i find it works better than the hardware midi inputs (because on my board, which is very old, the midi inputs were used too much and finally got broken, so i had to use usb , and i am very happy with it). If your board is 2nd hand, and if the previous user used a lot of connect/disconnect cables on the midi ins/outs, it could be fragilized....

May be a screenshot of your scope project and explanation of your hard and soft equipment will help; often, there is a slight mistake that people don't notice immediately (and it may be confusing at the begining to deal with those ins and outs). I mean, very often on the french forums, people post screenshots and the description that they give of their project doesn't match the actual connections on the screeshots, and very often, problems get solved that way. I hope it is as simple as this for you

[ironman]

ok figured out has nothing realy to do with cubase, even if i load a synth in project window it happens and even changes preset on synth sometimes. its pretty random as well, can play without problems for a minute or 2 then stick notes everywhere and problems, like it has a mind of its own. it might indead be my midi controller which is a nord lead 2x. anyone hsve any such experience with this synth?

[garyb]

it should work fine.

put a midi monitor in the routing window. do you see active sensing in the monitor's window after it's connected to the card's midi source?

have you checked to see if you have shared irqs with the Scope card?

[valis]

garyb outlined the major 2 culprits that people experience crashing from...

[Merkury]

If you can, try a usb midi connection for the midi keyboard, i find it works better than the hardware midi inputs (because on my board, which is very old, the midi inputs were used too much and finally got broken, so i had to use usb , and i am very happy with it).

I'm interested in this option,since i'm having constant crashes both in cubase and in reason ,whenever i play the keyboard for long time.
But if i use a USB keyboard,then what driver will i use in the routing window ?

I use Luna Midi source - > Seq dest (Seq Source and Luna Midi dest are unconnected )

[ironman]

i just turned on my computer today and another problem lurked which i think exposes the previous wacky behavior: it turns out that midi doesnt work at all now. i connected midi monitor played on my synth and nothing. i tryed changing midi cables with no luck and after somemore expirimintaion i found that my midi out works on the scope card; it can send midi now but not recieve it. does this mean that i just have a faulty midi in and it just gave away today?? should i buy another multi cable thingy magigy that connects to my scope card and if so where can i buy?
cheers

[garyb]

possibly the wire has broken right at the connector, this is common and easily fixed if you can solder. you can purchase a cable whip from S/C if you need a new one.

[astroman]

you should first try to check the midi part on it's own by a simple loopback test

connect the hardware Midi Out to Midi In by a cable
have a Scope Midi Source in your project which you connect to the Midi Monitor (or a synth)
use the Midi Keyboard Device connected to a Scope Midi Destination
when you press a virtual key it should be monitored (or make a sound)

external midi devices don't always feed enough current to the onboard optocouplers, occasionally due to supply power.

cheers, Tom

[ironman]

ok guys fixed my midi cable, which solved the infinite feedback issue where sometimes a note would infinitly sustain, however my other crashing issue still exists. most of time when i record into cubase, and try to stop the record, it just keeps playing the song with the play button lit and impossible to press stop or the record button and then cubase crashes. this issue is getting reaally annnoying.no irq sharing and i also tryed to reformat windows, nothing. anybody???
cheers

[garyb]

what else is running on your computer?

post a screenshot of your routing window...are you using asio drivers? you checked for active sensiong right? how did you check for shared irqs?

[ironman]

asio2,yes checked active sensing n midi monitor didnt pick anything up when wasnt playing, checked irqs as described earlier in this post.
cheers

[garyb]

is this cubase 4 or 5? have you run the cubase asio patch?

[ironman]

sx3

[garyb]

in that case, i'd say that either there's software corruption(os and/or apps) or bad hardware(ram, power supply?). Scope and SX3 should be absolutely rock stable.

what is the driver set to in the vst setup?

[ironman]

useing original cubase with dongle, checked hardware evrything looks good and isnt very old...heres a bunch of screenshots of cubase device manager

[ironman]

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