Any Vectron Lovers?

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Tue Jun 24, 2008 11:24 pm

I have kind of come full circle and have went back to stock synths for experimenting, and realized what a Schmuck I have been.

Vectron's presets sounded so much like a Pac Man synth, that I blew right by it.

This is serious evolving pad machine, and also can be a great lead synth / layer.

I have just printed out the pdf.manual as I am going to spend a week with this little masterpiece.

It's 16 bit waveforms actually are very full sounding.

I made a vectoring pad where I actually placed the time envelope to get the exact sounds I wanted.

This is a really great synth for live control also. The aux controllers are ingenius.

It's really nice to have free time. I can wait without impatience as I learn some of the overlooked gems I have had right in front of me the while time.

I would love to see somebody else's presets if anyone has played with this beast very much.

Ben Walker · Post by **Ben Walker** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 12:21 am

You're right Jimmy,
Vectron is an overlooked masterpiece. The interface gets a little getting used to, just because of the complexity of the loops you can set up, but it's a really powerful synth, capable of such dynamic sounds.

I posted a few presets way back when. Hope you like them.

Ben

Lima · Post by **Lima** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 1:41 am

I agree I like it very much. Jimmy, try it @ 96 KHz and you will be amazed!

It's really a pity that it doesn't have internal oversampling... Maybe we can ask to Soniccore for an update...

bosone · Post by **bosone** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 1:55 am

if you make some presets with vectron please share it for vectron player users!

thanks!

Shayne White · Post by **Shayne White** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 7:23 am

Lima wrote:I agree I like it very much. Jimmy, try it @ 96 KHz and you will be amazed!

It's really a pity that it doesn't have internal oversampling... Maybe we can ask to Soniccore for an update...

Yeah, Vectron would be awesome if it were aliasing-free. As it is, I don't use it anymore -- I've gone with Rapture. But Rapture doesn't do everything Vectron can do, so I've missed Vectron. At 96k it's much better -- I'll have to try it out on Xite.

Shayne

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 7:36 am

Ahh Yes.............The Silent Majority Speaks.

Got the pres' Brotha' Man Ben , Thanks.

I really like your programming on Vectron.

I will share what I have this weekend.

So far I have the basic evolving pads w/ square, saws, creamware typicals, etc.

They are just basically for timings sake at this point.

I usually have my presets made for certain parts of an arrangement, these are timed to evolve in the arrangements for climaxing, and to add motion.

It's really cool to match it to an 8 bar section that loops perfectly.

It has made me forget my anticipation for XITE-1........quite a feat actually.

Too bad we can't use SpaceF Satellites and JBowen RDII Modules, it would be amazing to Vector through those powerful Oscillators and Filters.

It's going to be a great week.

petal · Post by **petal** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 11:35 am

I agree completely! I too tried to make people aware of the wonders that the Vectron has to offer. I did it with two patch-examples, both slow and evolving. Only 4 notes played at 10 bpm I believe it was and a touch of reverb. Here are the original posts:

http://www.planetz.com/phpBB2/viewtopic ... light=beau
http://www.planetz.com/phpBB2/viewtopic ... light=beau

The mp3's have expired in the original posts but you can find them here if you are interested:

http://www.skydebanen.net/~jeppesen/LAB/beau.mp3 (4mb)
http://www.skydebanen.net/~jeppesen/LAB/beausibling.mp3 (4mb)

Thomas

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 12:15 pm

Thank You Brotha' Man Petal.

I am downloading to listen to later tonight.

I am too feverish trying to learn about importing my own sample wav.'s, and creation of waves right now, but also when clearing my brain of the 1000 yard stare I get from hours of staring at an LCD, I mellow out to mp3.'s and music.

I hope the buffer doesn't have a small amount of RAM limiting it's use of top notch wav's I have collected.

Hell I got hundreds of pages from SpaceF and Vectron to read,....gotta go.

Thanks

sonicstrav · Post by **sonicstrav** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 12:31 pm

Vectron is a superb synth and very underestimated.

I read through the manual - it took a while and was quite heavy-going (can get rather dull) but it is unlike any of the other Creamware synths.

There is HUGE potential for great presets - however the GUI is a bit shitty - I would like a bigger interface - it is a more tricky synth to program - more controls on the screen and a nicer interface would make programming more enjoyable.

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 7:44 pm

Brotha' Man Shayne White,

Try some of Rapture's waveform WAV's, and let me know how they sound.

That is the best VST synth IMO, and I have heard many. It also has some of the analog style performance features found in Solaris 5.0, like the seperate Oscillator Glides.

The circular vectoring of Vectron is what makes it's sounds so unique.

Solaris has vectoring, but it's x / y axis controlled by LFO's, no circular motions like Vectron has.

Brotha' Man Petal,

I liked your mp3's especially the sibling of beau.

I can use GigaEditor for downsampling, but I have boatloads od EMU / Akai / Gigasampler 16 bit WAV.'s.

Here's a down sampler that works for 24bit to 16bit.

http://www.dbpoweramp.com/

HUROLURA · Post by **HUROLURA** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 10:54 am

Hi Jimmy,

I also love the Vectron's sound.
That was one of my reason to buy a novation X-Station ... to be able to use the touchpad as a vector controller !!!
That's just too bad the Vectron for Noah was not finished

CheerZ

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:53 am

I have found what I will use this for.

Solaris has a hardware synth out this Fall w/ a Joystick controller.

Vectron will create new waveforms of 16 but Choirs from SOV, and other Akai / EMU libraries for my vocal pad machine.

For example,

I have used Vox pads for a long time but their so static and a real hassle in Gigastudio to crossfade between different vowels or number of vocalists.

In Vectron I can morph / vector between different syllables, and even have a solo vocal morph into a full blown choir.

Sounds silly but when an excellent live trumpet and saxophonist are backed by quality ensemble libraries, the real horns become very prominent.

With a few good vocalists and evolving vocal pads that I can create on Vectron it will have the same effect live.

I will of course post a demo as soon as I can figure out how to make this a reality.

Direct Auditioning of WAV. files has me a little stumped temporarily as I keep losing the preset half way through it's creation.

I'll figure it out better tonight.

I have downsampled some 24 bit ahh's, oo's, eee's, and ooh's that sound great. They were small in size. When I start going for the Symphony of Voices Akai / WAV's they will be much harder as they are much bigger than the sf2's from EMU libraries.

This is a perfect evolving pad machine w/ many possibilities.

Silenzio · Post by **Silenzio** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 12:29 pm

Hi
In my opinion Vectron is THE BEST of Creamware synths. Minimax, Podyssey etc are great, but they are only emulations of "true " instruments. Vectron is/ was originally Creamware's idea. I know it was inspirated by prophet VS, but it is very different.

Idea of "wave oscilators" is great, morphing possibilities are geat, modulation matrix is one of the best I've ever seen. Instruments sound is really big. I even like aliasing in hi frequencies. Some of you probably dont like this. But not me

Livng in everything-digitally-emulated era we often want to have smooth, analog-like sounding virtual moogs, arps.... There are dozens emulations of it Some of them sounds really bad, some quite good, but always ONLY emulations .

Artistic disaster: "oh your music is perfectly emulation of Bach" I dont like emuletions.

Back to the Vectron. No doubt this is special and original synth. Maybe @96 Vectron is aliasing free, but in my opinion aliasing ads some "flavour" of early digital synths and I simply like it (like awful sounding filters of Oberheim Xpander).

Prgramming Vectron is not very easy, instrument behaves strange while programming, but results are really amazing. Especially evelvong or rytmic soundscapes

I've posted some new Vectron sounds. You can download it from "Presets & Tools" section

Regards

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:57 pm

Agreed.

It is what it is, and it is unique.

I get the vocal sounds I am talking about, and having fun vectoring the hell out of them, and morphing.

Truly an ingenius synth.