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widy
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searching for a camcorder

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i'm searching for a camcorder
the camcorder needs:
- SD card for recording ( no mechanic , very importand )
- as smale as possible
- ultra-light
- as cheap as possible
- good video quality ( no artefacts on fast camerea moves )
- CCD ( 0,8k )
- image stabiliziser

for what:
I will plug this camcorder on a skydive helmet. i will not make movies for the cinema .. ist just for fun .. to analyse my friends or caputre my mailfunctions if my parachute did not open as it should :)

for me there are only 2 options:
1)
buy an old mini dv camcorder like Sony pc 100 110 120 or so
but the main reason why i not do this is that this camcorders are to havy ~500g .. and i know from my friends that this camcorders broken down after 1 or 2 years of jumping.
2)
so for me only sd camcorder are suitable but there exisits so much this time. but i did not find any demo videos from sd camcorders in the internet .. only on youtube ..but videoes on youtube are not good to compare because of reencoding.

i know from different forums in the internet that sd camcorders like aiptek are totlay shit ....

this is my fafourite ( samsung vp x300l )
http://av.samsung.de/produkte/detail12_ ... f9dd2fc5fb .. but for the video quality the price is to havy ( ~450 Euro ) .....

(panasonic S10EG)
http://www.produkte.panasonic.de/produc ... &prop=TEST ... also low vidoe quality .. but costs only ~220-260 Euro

panasonic s150
http://www.produkte.panasonic.de/produc ... &prop=TEST
better qulity as samsung because of 3 ccd ... but hmm.. also havy price .. ~500-600 Euro ..and it is also big

normaly the price is not so importand .. but i have no expirance in such stuff ... i only think ..if this camcorder will break down after a few jumps i lost my money ....

has anyone expiriance with sd camcorders ?


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Post by bosone »

i saw some small "action camera" advice somewhere, but i don't remember models or names. they're expecially for "extreme sports" like parachute,bmx, sky, skateboarding

it was small and build like a tube/bullet, with solid state storage. i think there was no video display

google reports this as one of the first site

http://www.actioncameras.co.uk/
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Post by widy »

thx ... i know also this option (POV i think is the best)
but cam costs ~200euro
and you need a external digital recorder (POV) .... and this recorders costs also ~400-600 euro

and there exists not image stabilisizer for this systems ...

and i think .. only a cam on the helmet is the best option .. otherwise there is a cable from the helmet to the recorder ....

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Post by Aries »

Check out The Gadget Show:-

http://gadgetshow.five.tv/jsp/5gsmain.j ... n=Features


The cheap Helicopter Fly Cam 1 £44.95, might be what you need.
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Post by siriusbliss »

I was going to recommend a Canon HV-20 or HV-30, which are awesome, but probably out of pricerange and may be a ittle too heavy to wear on the head. Not sure - but hey, they're HD - so AWESOME watching your fall in HD.

I love my HV-20 for moving events, quick edits behind stage during performances, etc.

Good luck,

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Post by braincell »

No moving parts is excellent but you realize that the quality of the video is going to be poor or the length short. In 10 years flash memory video cameras will be a great idea. I was looking into a DVD camera. They use the mini DVD which can be played in any DVD player. I was told the video doesn't look so good. Ultimately someone gave me a DV cam which I haven't used yet.
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Post by siriusbliss »

Also I believe with the SD and DVD preformatted media type configurations, you are locked into the cameras' embedded compression format - i.e. mpeg, etc. - which you may not care about in this case, but DV tape format is best since it's uncompressed and you can then capture the video in any format you'd like directly off the camera into your editing software.

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