Soniccore Video from Musikmesse (german) + Solaris...

spacef · Post by **spacef** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 1:07 am

or the 100% compatibility (let's say 99.999999999 just in case)
the same sound(s)
and the zero learning curve ?

borg · Post by **borg** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 1:15 am

hehe, that's another way of looking at it, yes

But as an almost certain buyer of the new thing (together with laptop), and as a MacOS9 user who won't get a feel of the new v5, I would find it reassuring that SC find Mod3 stable and smooth running enough to show at the Messe... Maybe due to some bug fixes?

Shayne White · Post by **Shayne White** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 8:43 am

What was unstable about Mod3? I hardly had any problems with it...

borg · Post by **borg** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 9:18 am

Well, I wouldn't call myself an experienced guru modder, but there was a time I was starting to get into it, and the consensus back then was, that the Mod2 shell was far more 'stable', iirc, presets seemed to be the problem.

Leper · Post by **Leper** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 1:58 pm

Yes, Mod III shell has some small bugs in it which make it more frustrating to use. I always stick to Mod2 shell.

Though it would be fantastic if they could update Mod III and fix the bugs with Scope v5!

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:03 am

I had an hour of work deleted because of this bug. Someone on this forum insisted to me that this is not a bug but the way it is intended to work and that it is not a problem so I should just shut up about it. Whatever! It's a bad bug that Creamware pretended didn't exist. As far as I can tell no effort was made to fix it.

Just to clear up a misunderstanding. Sonic Core supports Creamware not to be nice but because they bought the company.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:21 am

it's your way of formulating your requests that makes us unconfortable. of course you are free to make a challenging statement about any of SC stuff through planetz because they read this board probably because it helps them steer their product development philosophy.. but SC is a young company and creamware is dead. when new users get interested in buying some SC gear, they soon enough find this place. When they see negative energy flowing around they might get scared away and at this point it is a loss for all of us veteran users and devs. can't you feel the love?

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:23 am

Bugs won't get fixed if users are willing to accept them. These companies don't exists to give and get love.

pollux · Post by **pollux** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:50 am

braincell wrote:Bugs won't get fixed if users are willing to accept them. These companies don't exists to give and get love.

If you want a bug to be accepted as such, then you should clearly state:

* nature of the bug
* circunstances under which it appears
* frequency it appears
* blocking or not (workaround possible)
* workarounds (if any)
* detailed instructions to reproduce it
* any other information you find useful

Cheers

Raul

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:01 am

braincell wrote:Bugs won't get fixed if users are willing to accept them.

legros wrote: of course you are free to make a challenging statement about any of SC stuff through planetz

braincell wrote: These companies don't exists to give and get love.

I don't agree. this company is made of passionates that love music

FrancisHarmany · Post by **FrancisHarmany** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:24 am

braincell wrote:Bugs won't get fixed if users are willing to accept them.

Yes they simply call them "features" dont they

It all depends on the severity of the bug and how (often) its reported. Being able
to reproduce it (and I dont mean, wait 2 days and it will freeze....) also helps alot.

And we as a community can help by gathering as much information as
possible.... and keep bugging for bugfixes in a polite way, as a community ?

Seems to me that a company would take it very seriously if a trusted group
of users notifies them of problems which several users have, and provide them
with usable info. It might mean that they dont have to deal with the customer and can just spend time fixing bugs...........

Sure, sure, they "should" hire people todo this...... I dont mind helping them though, I love being involved with this community. And I am sure we can improve upon our relationship with SC!! We will, and already have. influence the future of our platform.

-Frans

YiannisK · Post by **YiannisK** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:58 am

Lets make another toppic

"Bug Reports"

So S\C have easy access to Forum members bug reports

Just a suggestion

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:30 am

no no, if we have to make another one, lets title it "the braincell free scope 5 trusted fund"

hifiboom · Post by **hifiboom** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:40 am

pollux · Post by **pollux** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 12:32 pm

legros wrote:no no, if we have to make another one, lets title it "the braincell free scope 5 trusted fund"

We should start saving then.. Once he'll have SCOPE 5 he'll start whining that his old 3 DSP card should be upgraded for free to an XITE 1, when his motherboard won't have any pci slots anymore

okantah · Post by **okantah** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 1:09 pm

pollux
Joined: 29 May 2004
Posts: 131
Location: Bretigny sur Orge, France
Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:32 pm Post subject:
legros wrote:
no no, if we have to make another one, lets title it "the braincell free scope 5 trusted fund"
We should start saving then.. Once he'll have SCOPE 5 he'll start whining that his old 3 DSP card should be upgraded for free to an XITE 1, when his motherboard won't have any pci slots anymore ........................................................

Sure,that guy is like a virus.
don't take me wrong,he is fine man his is NOT virus
cheerz

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 7:00 pm

PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 1:31 am Post subject:

at0m wrote:I have no doubt CW will be fine soon, personally I don't see a reason to worry at all...

BingoTheClowno · Post by **BingoTheClowno** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 5:48 am

pollux wrote:
braincell wrote:Bugs won't get fixed if users are willing to accept them. These companies don't exists to give and get love.
If you want a bug to be accepted as such, then you should clearly state:

* nature of the bug
* circunstances under which it appears
* frequency it appears
* blocking or not (workaround possible)
* workarounds (if any)
* detailed instructions to reproduce it
* any other information you find useful

Cheers

Raul

Oh, come on, that is a well known problem, MIDI just doesn't work:
http://www.planetz.com/phpBB2/viewtopic ... 2aa3b98726

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:18 am

Considering there are few bugs (as far as I know), you would expect they would have been fixed by now. Some of them such as the midi thing (this is the first I have heard of it) or the s/pdif not working at all after the SFP 2 might be some sort of a conflict with hardware on the user's computer. I don't know.

The Mod 3 shell bug is a universal problem 100% of the time for all users. I don't see how or why they could have released it like that without knowing about it.

wayne · Post by **wayne** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 5:22 pm

Squidward

PlanetZ forums - scopeusers.com

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