SCOPE XITE-1: new DSP hardware from Sonic Core!

Post by **hubird** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:30 pm

aren't you loosing track now Braincell?
Ralf was a beacon in the storm for a few years

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:32 pm

I'm sorry I don't speak German, also he was overworked and they made the process tedious for him apparently.

Bingo! Bingo. For a new user maybe but not for most of us unless you can afford to let your wife charge a $6,000 bass to your credit card!

Post by **hubird** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:34 pm

all my contacts with him was in English...

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:35 pm

Mine were in English too, that was the problem. His English was not so good.

pollux · Post by **pollux** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:44 pm

braincell wrote:Mine were in English too, that was the problem. His English was not so good.

Are we talking about the same Ralf? His english has always been perfect when I contact him.

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 4:03 pm

Perhaps he was tired from working on the ABS.

darkrezin · Post by **darkrezin** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 4:48 pm

Man.. no offence really but you'd have to either have a really really bad attitude or be a bit retarded to have problems communicating with Ralf regarding transferring keys. I've had him do a 2-way multiple key transfer to 1 of several cards (the other party was also a native English speaker) and there were zero problems whatsoever.

Sorry to say but if you're the type to look for problems with your demeanour/behaviour then you will generally find them.

BingoTheClowno · Post by **BingoTheClowno** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 5:14 pm

You are not improving SC image by insulting other users.

darkrezin · Post by **darkrezin** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 5:17 pm

firstly I have nothing to do with SC, secondly hmm.. I can't be bothered.

Shayne White · Post by **Shayne White** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:18 pm

Tau wrote:Let's see:

- new drivers
- Vista, XP and OSX support
- new devices and new Scope Fusion Software
- new DSP hardware, with more processing power and backward plug-in compatibility
- more compatibility re. host computer: Apple, PCI-E, EC...
- portability assured by Sonic Core (no 3rd part interfacing needed)

I have one suggestion for the X-Cite: the ability to function without a computer, like a klangbox. We could, for example, store some projects in an on-board memory, and select them via a knob on the front. The unit would load the project and devices without the need for a GUI, assign audio and MIDI paths. Then it would just be a question of plugging a MIDI keyboard / controller into it and play on. This, I believe, would really set this way above anything else.

Cheerz

T

I agree that the new Scope Xite-1 looks like everything we Scope users have been asking for years. It almost feels a dream come true with all the new features! It's worth almost any price, really.

Mac support is the biggest bonus. Most "pro" users who already pay thousands for production hardware/software will be using a Mac, and this really opens a new customer base for SC. Low-end PC users can stil buy the old hardware, though it'd be best if those were eventually upgraded to PCI-E as well.

However, standalone support for Xite will be impossible and should NOT be attempted! CreamWare already tried that trick with Noah, and it was a disaster. The problem was that the plugins had to be rewritten from the ground up to transfer all Async modules to Sync in order to run them without a host computer. Only a few plugins were ported to Noah, and it was very cost- and time-consuming. The same process would have to be done with Xite, and would kill SC.

Now that Scope can be used with a laptop, it's already much more live-friendly and that's as far as it should go.

Shayne

BingoTheClowno · Post by **BingoTheClowno** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:31 pm

New drivers for the old and new hardware or just for the new?

nightscope · Post by **nightscope** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:35 pm

BingoTheClowno wrote:New drivers for the old and new hardware or just for the new?

Hi, bing,

I think the forthcoming v5 software is for the present cards and the new box as well.

http://www.sonic-core.net/en/home/scp.html

garyb wrote:midol

Ha!! I thought it was some kinda MIDI thingy I never heard of. Apparently not.

ns

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:45 pm

Shayne, the difference between async & sync doesn't have any bearing here at all imo. Put it this way... if that's a major issue then it's the plugin developer who's responsible for the issue, not the platform developer. Everything we need to achieve was put in place & if we don't know how to use it even after many years, then who's to blame? Sonic Core? I don't think so.

Post by **garyb** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:12 pm

Tau,
my words exactly, although i don't care about the standalone, but that's just me.

bingo,
yes, new drivers for old and new. Scope v5 is for everyone. XITE-1 is the newest addition to the Scope world.

nightscope,
Midol is an over the counter product for the relief of the symptoms cuased by the menstrual cycle including aches, bloating and cramping ...

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:47 pm

darkrezin wrote:Man.. no offence really but you'd have to either have a really really bad attitude or be a bit retarded to have problems communicating with Ralf.

I agree with this 100%.
Ralf has always got back to me in good english regarding anything I've asked of him.

hifiboom · Post by **hifiboom** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 8:03 pm

Shayne,

very good points! I agree 100%
we need no second noah desaster

Scope is a pack that uses dsp for audiorate and pc cpu for other scripting stuff and drivers. And a laptop with a a nice 32bit resolution display is a way more comfortable way for editing the box internals than a 200 dots monochrome LCD display and some plastic knobs...

That would be a step backwards..and a waste of production cost.

SC is a small team and they should rather spend their rare genius manpower on essential stuff like improving the platform itsself and its featurelist , improving and developing new atoms for sdk and some new device plug-in developments aimed for higher quality processing and synthesis.

my2

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 8:12 pm

Shayne White wrote:However, standalone support for Xite will be impossible and should NOT be attempted! CreamWare already tried that trick with Noah, and it was a disaster. The problem was that the plugins had to be rewritten from the ground up to transfer all Async modules to Sync in order to run them without a host computer.

No big deal. If some things need rewritten, no problem, but I don't think that's the case. I think the whole I/O structure & certain inards of Noah are within reach if we dig deep enough. Also, who said Noah was a disaster? Was that the same guy that 'made it so'?

skwawks · Post by **skwawks** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:09 pm

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and RALFS a Sweetheart I reckon

Skwawks

Post by **garyb** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:08 pm

FrancisHarmany · Post by **FrancisHarmany** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:57 pm

darkrezin wrote:As tedious as braincell's comment is, it does highlight something that is clearly addressed by Xcite-1. IMHO one of the problems of the original cards was aiming it at a 'semi-pro' market

yes! but all semi-pro scopers have had enough time to get Pro