SCOPE XITE-1: new DSP hardware from Sonic Core!

hifiboom · Post by **hifiboom** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 8:37 am

another great gimmick although being a minor thing is the headphone out at the front.

That means you can take this box, a laptop and a good set of headphones and have a complete mobile high end studio.

Whereever you go, you take it with you.

PS: I hope it gets an extended warranty. with such an investment I would feel way better if it comes with something like 4 or 5 years

I mean the old cards already seemed to be built like a tank.

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 8:53 am

140+ dsps worth of power in a 1u rack... This is the shizzle.

next to nothing · Post by **next to nothing** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 8:58 am

here i am checking out the new formant filters, making pretty authentic plings and plongs! as you can see rom my reaction i like the sound a lot!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HttF5HVYtlQ

idiso · Post by **idiso** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 11:12 am

Big Congarts,Soniccore!!

What i am interested in,is:
-is the new xite-1 usable alongside the "old" Hardware and
-will the sdk be available in a new version?
(or is this platform totally backwardscompatible?)

John Cooper · Post by **John Cooper** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:33 pm

Wow, I step away for a couple days, and look what i missed.
Phenomenal news! Congratulations sonic core!

-John

Neutron · Post by **Neutron** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 8:46 pm

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie ... :IT&ih=006

thats definitely worth it LOL

I think Ill have a XITE-1 instead

i am waiting for the first $10,000 303 on ebay.

ScofieldKid · Post by **ScofieldKid** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 9:36 pm

Holy Moly!

Now we're talking! Great news!

firubbi · Post by **firubbi** » Sun Mar 09, 2008 2:00 am

Cool. does anyone got a link of the back panel?
thanks

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Sun Mar 09, 2008 4:48 am

Firubbi, Frankfurt is on my schedule, but I've not decided about the day yet...
Most likely someone else will be earlier to report

also congrats from my side to SonicCore - it's a well placed product imo

addressing those grown from the home producers, assuming the analog part is up to expectations...
the most common subset of external connectors is in place (2 guitars or guitar/bass, 2 Mics) and you can easily move the thing around.

you can have the FOH dude record a band with VDAT (via remote control software), while 2 players process their instruments with Dynatube, switching presets by midi footcontrollers (each on his own channel/instance of the plug).
Add the high quality reverb/dynamics and last but not least a couple of fine synths...
Even the keyboarder could remote control his part of the project simultaneously with the FOH position - that's just kid's stuff, done that since a decade (as mentioned numerous times about Farallon's Timbuktu Remote software)

just to picture the setup:
the Xite-1 and an Adat converter plus a regular server box in 4 units, booting into the 'band project'
2 cheapo notebooks for remote control (say keyboarder, FOH)
control software if you don't want to rely on M$
estimated price 8k Euro

saves dedicated console for FOH
an Ampeg for the bassist, VOX, Marshall, Mesa for the guitar player
carrying, stacking, Micing of gear
a 24 track record box

send main out to PA, send submixes to active monitors for stage sound via Adat converter

this is your portable studio on the road - one setup, one sound, no matter if rehearsal or in the place.
I wouldn't dare to picture something like this based on the 'classical' Scope setup, but this is really compact and powerful and it separates the processing unit from the PC box. You can have a backup PC, as you'd just need to switch one connector.

Imo it's something many users have asked for over the years, there's a lot of possibilities with this box - I just sat 5 minutes about the idea above, there may certainly be more...

there is definetely no future in this price tag whining over and over again
those folks don't buy anything anyway. period.
this is professional gear for an affordable price, there is a value delivered, probably more than you see at a quick glance
some understatement, please...

cheers, Tom

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Sun Mar 09, 2008 5:54 am

Astro, My Brotha'.

As usual your long overdue comments are inspiring.

I was pondering the exact same scenarios. This is the solution for live recordings as well as performance.

My 3 x cards are quite happy the way they are. Their horsepower has been sufficient for a while now, as I have added ASB's and Klangs.

So many talented players I have had to pass on working with as they lacked the gear, but sadly had the talent. This is a very easy solution for me. I already have the perfect mixers and devices, w/ the exception of DynaTubes.

As far as price goes I will be one of the members here who has the means and ways to have this pay itself off within a month of gigs. Then additional XITE-1's or whatever else is needed can be purchased. At the end of the day I see this as a money maker, the same way you do.

I am happy to hear you are going again. Bowen enjoyed your visit last year, I am sure you two have much to discuss.

I will be using Solaris and XITE-1 before summers end, and Gigastudio 4 has the mast for all things sampled.

Please if you have the time, I would appreciate your consulting upon your return.

Looking forward to your post.(s).

JV

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Sun Mar 09, 2008 6:53 am

thanks for your kind words, Jimmy

of course I had your live rig in mind when thinking about what an Xite box could do...

you say it works great, and I'm shure it does, as you can have GaryB around when it's due... but what about us regular folks far away from SoCal, the Sierra and Vegas ?

setting up such a box the 'classical' way is a demanding task, starting at the mechanical buildup, there are lots of parts involved, there is lots of additional heat etc and you simply couldn't recover from a failure under 'live' conditions.
as I understand your setup you have a 2nd system available that can take over parts of the first one if that crashes completely.

the Xite just sorts and aligns things neatly

and as mentioned in the other thread it probably houses the ADSP 21362(*) with 6 times the onchip memory of the current Sharcs, so PCI bandwidth may become less of a concern, too. Great stuff...

cheers, Tom
(*) it has exactly 10 times the mflops spec of the 21065 used on current boards

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:12 am

Sie Sind Willkommen Mein Freund,

GaryB is my anchor 4 sure, we will doing Cubase 4 lessons later today.

I also am bustin' his balls tryin' to get " The Body Of Ralf " to set up an accounts recievable, as after my bills are paid I tend to spend.

We are lucky to have you continue to grace this blessed forum of ours w/ your vast experiences w/ Scope, and as an astute IT pro.

Your help when I first joined will never be forgot, trust me. You are very sick like many of us here, but no one I am aware of does so much, w/ so little. Just your example of running a Guitar throught the B2003's scanner vibrato demonstrated the depth of your focus.

I anxiously await your opinions when you return from Frankfurt.

I hope to continue our long distance consultations.

I am sure John Bowen is looking forward to seeing you again also.

Alvetazein.

JV

Immanuel · Post by **Immanuel** » Sun Mar 09, 2008 11:09 am

This looks like xiting news. Actually, for a while I have thought: "why don't SC make a convenient 1u unit loaded with DSP-power?". Think about it. You can make a 3u 18 track recording studio with Xite-1, a converter and a laptop mounted on a rack tray. And you've still got the AES/EBU plugs to add 2 extra channels.

BingoTheClowno · Post by **BingoTheClowno** » Sun Mar 09, 2008 5:11 pm

How about releasing the source code for the Scope 4.0 driver? Just the driver.

Shayne White · Post by **Shayne White** » Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:06 pm

astroman wrote: (*) it has exactly 10 times the mflops spec of the 21065 used on current boards

If that's the case, then they'd still have to use fourteen DSP chips. Is there any other chip they might be using that's more powerful, enabling them to use fewer chips?

Tiger Sharcs aren't code compatible, are they?

Shayne

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Sun Mar 09, 2008 11:01 pm

that's correct - TS cannot run the existing Scope code.

of course my assumption about the chips is just a guess, but then it would be the most easy approach to use an existing design

there are not that many different Sharcs to choose from anyway, and this type is pretty affordable, starting at $27 per 1000 - and the peak flops multiply by 10 compared to the 21065.

cheers, Tom

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 4:29 am

Those are fast chips. I think I might have been going a bit OTT thinking it's like the equivalent of 140+ 21065's though...

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 8:10 am

It will fail. It is too expensive.

next to nothing · Post by **next to nothing** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 8:17 am

it is too expensive compared to what exactly?

hifiboom · Post by **hifiboom** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 8:21 am

I wondered about the chip they choose also.

I don`t think its the tigersharc, too.

At the end i am happy that we have sharcs on our boards as it seems to be the most advanced chip for audio tasks and the only chip that seems able to do 32bit fixed point handling which seems not only superior on paper but also subjectively measured by ear.