[quote="garyb"]use the E6850.
why?
do you have really more perfomance with a cpu that supports 1333MHz FSB`
then with one that has twice as much cores and L2 cache but only 1066MHz FSB?
or is just the volt the problem?
dont you think it would be better to get another on instead?
is this mobo is ok with scope?
You can use then a QX9650.. 4 cores and 1333 MHz FSB.. or a QX9770 with a 1600 MHz FSB...emphazer wrote:garyb wrote:use the E6850.
why?
do you have really more perfomance with a cpu that supports 1333MHz FSB`
then with one that has twice as much cores and L2 cache but only 1066MHz FSB?
or is just the volt the problem?
dont you think it would be better to get another on instead?
and if that's not enough, they're highly overclockeable
Ankyuvarymush.
One can tweak the latency ( CL5 to CL4 etc. ) as well as the voltage ( 1.8v to 1.9v, or 1.9v to 1.8v ) in Intel's BIOS. This is a new approach for Intel as they attempt to win over the enthusiast crowd.
The E6850 is the best bang for a buck right now. Our apps can't take advantage of the fast QX's until this summer probably, even though everyone says NAMM '08. I tend to not trust what Sonar / Cubase developers say anymore. The best performance increase until those apps are bug free would be the 3 GB Switch......................http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/pl ... fault.mspx...........................
Memory addressing appears to be the bottleneck, not the CPU's IPS, or additional threads. The QX series will have more cache, and the 1333 / 1600 FSB will beat the E6850's hands down w/ application optimisations only. So for now the cheap E6850 w/ the PAE 3GB switch will be the best way to go IMHO.
Just having a P35 / G33 mobo is a smart move. I always try to talk myself into a differnet over-researched approach to my designs, but GaryB has done my last 5 designs, and as usual saved me money and proved that conservatism is PC correct. Personal Computer wise, and Politically Correct as well.
One can tweak the latency ( CL5 to CL4 etc. ) as well as the voltage ( 1.8v to 1.9v, or 1.9v to 1.8v ) in Intel's BIOS. This is a new approach for Intel as they attempt to win over the enthusiast crowd.
The E6850 is the best bang for a buck right now. Our apps can't take advantage of the fast QX's until this summer probably, even though everyone says NAMM '08. I tend to not trust what Sonar / Cubase developers say anymore. The best performance increase until those apps are bug free would be the 3 GB Switch......................http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/pl ... fault.mspx...........................
Memory addressing appears to be the bottleneck, not the CPU's IPS, or additional threads. The QX series will have more cache, and the 1333 / 1600 FSB will beat the E6850's hands down w/ application optimisations only. So for now the cheap E6850 w/ the PAE 3GB switch will be the best way to go IMHO.
Just having a P35 / G33 mobo is a smart move. I always try to talk myself into a differnet over-researched approach to my designs, but GaryB has done my last 5 designs, and as usual saved me money and proved that conservatism is PC correct. Personal Computer wise, and Politically Correct as well.
although I expected that it's nice to hear from you it does. they have a nice manufacturer/device compatibility tool, so it's easy to determine whether it's worth thinking about it or notgaryb wrote:
on Siriusbliss' computer i used kingston valueram. it works perfectly.
now I still have to assemble everything...
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already bought:
750watt Thermaltake powersupply.
intel mobo dp35dp
intel prosessor E6850
does this chassis can hold scope pro?
Dimension w/Bezel (W x H x D) 270 x 521 x 630 mm
http://www.firingsquad.com/products/rev ... /8151/2646
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RAM: strange is after using memory configurator i got this result. all i need 800mhz but which one is 1.8volt!!
TWIN2X4096-6400C5 DDR2-800 (DHX) 4GB Kit (2 x 2GB) 5-5-5-18-2T
TWIN2X4096-6400C5DHX DDR2-800 (DHX) 4GB Kit (2 x 2GB) 5-5-5-18-2T
QUAD2X4096-6400C5DHX DDR2-800 (DHX) 4GB Kit (4 x 1GB) 5-5-5-18-2T
QUAD2X4096-8500C5 DDR2-800 (XM2S-6400) 4GB Kit (4 x 1GB) 5-5-5-15-2T
TWIN2X2048-6400C4 DDR2-800 C4 2GB Kit (2 x 1GB) 4-4-4-12-2T
TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX DDR2-800 C4 2GB Kit (2 x 1GB) 4-4-4-12-2T
TWIN2X2048-6400C4PRO DDR2-800 C4 2GB Kit (2 x 1GB) 4-4-4-12-2T
TWIN2X2048-6400C5DHX DDR2-800 (DHX) 2GB Kit (2 x 1GB) 5-5-5-18-2T
T
CM2X1024-6400 DDR2-800 (XM2S-6400) 1GB 5-5-5-15-2T
4-4-4-12-2T
TWIN2X1024-6400C4 DDR2-800 C4 1GB Kit (2 x 512MB) 4-4-4-12-2T
CM2X512A-6400 DDR2-800 (XM2S-6400) 512MB 5-5-5-15-2T
i didn't find recomanded memory at intel site
garyb do you know where i can find that?
thanks
750watt Thermaltake powersupply.
intel mobo dp35dp
intel prosessor E6850
does this chassis can hold scope pro?
Dimension w/Bezel (W x H x D) 270 x 521 x 630 mm
http://www.firingsquad.com/products/rev ... /8151/2646
--------------------------------------------------------------
RAM: strange is after using memory configurator i got this result. all i need 800mhz but which one is 1.8volt!!
TWIN2X4096-6400C5 DDR2-800 (DHX) 4GB Kit (2 x 2GB) 5-5-5-18-2T
TWIN2X4096-6400C5DHX DDR2-800 (DHX) 4GB Kit (2 x 2GB) 5-5-5-18-2T
QUAD2X4096-6400C5DHX DDR2-800 (DHX) 4GB Kit (4 x 1GB) 5-5-5-18-2T
QUAD2X4096-8500C5 DDR2-800 (XM2S-6400) 4GB Kit (4 x 1GB) 5-5-5-15-2T
TWIN2X2048-6400C4 DDR2-800 C4 2GB Kit (2 x 1GB) 4-4-4-12-2T
TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX DDR2-800 C4 2GB Kit (2 x 1GB) 4-4-4-12-2T
TWIN2X2048-6400C4PRO DDR2-800 C4 2GB Kit (2 x 1GB) 4-4-4-12-2T
TWIN2X2048-6400C5DHX DDR2-800 (DHX) 2GB Kit (2 x 1GB) 5-5-5-18-2T
T
CM2X1024-6400 DDR2-800 (XM2S-6400) 1GB 5-5-5-15-2T
4-4-4-12-2T
TWIN2X1024-6400C4 DDR2-800 C4 1GB Kit (2 x 512MB) 4-4-4-12-2T
CM2X512A-6400 DDR2-800 (XM2S-6400) 512MB 5-5-5-15-2T
i didn't find recomanded memory at intel site
garyb do you know where i can find that?thanks
ask scope4live what he used, or use the Kingston.
you won't be able to use the Corsair.
nice case, but it'll never accept a full length card. most cool gaming cases won't. there aren't many full length cards that gamers use...
it's a bit of a hassle finding cases that do fit full length pci cards, a NOS Chieftec of Antec TX series would be perfect, but probably hard to find. for some reason, they aren't making many cases with room for a full size card these days, i guess there aren't a lot of big cards out there...
btw- that motherboard has no ps2 connectors. you will need to use USB for the keyboard/mouse.....
you won't be able to use the Corsair.
nice case, but it'll never accept a full length card. most cool gaming cases won't. there aren't many full length cards that gamers use...
it's a bit of a hassle finding cases that do fit full length pci cards, a NOS Chieftec of Antec TX series would be perfect, but probably hard to find. for some reason, they aren't making many cases with room for a full size card these days, i guess there aren't a lot of big cards out there...
btw- that motherboard has no ps2 connectors. you will need to use USB for the keyboard/mouse.....
i didn't saw intel mobo at OCZ site. hope this works...
OCZ System Elite XTC Edition 240-pin DIMM DDR2 PC2-6400, 800MHz 2GB (2x 1GB) SDRAM unbuffered dual channel system memory kit; fully JEDEC compliant; Cas 5; CL 5-5-5-15 timings; 1.8 volts; XTC (Xtreme Thermal Convection) Edition copper-mirrOred heatspreader included. 2.0V EVP (E)xtended (V)oltage (P)rotection. 100% hand tested. Lifetime warranty.
** what is the dimension of scope pro?
thanks
OCZ System Elite XTC Edition 240-pin DIMM DDR2 PC2-6400, 800MHz 2GB (2x 1GB) SDRAM unbuffered dual channel system memory kit; fully JEDEC compliant; Cas 5; CL 5-5-5-15 timings; 1.8 volts; XTC (Xtreme Thermal Convection) Edition copper-mirrOred heatspreader included. 2.0V EVP (E)xtended (V)oltage (P)rotection. 100% hand tested. Lifetime warranty.
** what is the dimension of scope pro?
thanks