Big thank to Ralf

Mr Arkadin · Post by **Mr Arkadin** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:19 am

Not only do i have no interest in opening any device i wouldn't know what to do with it if i did (there's probably not a lot i could do anyway). i just liked the idea of a graphical representation, but that didn't work anyway.

Do you really think that after buying 3 Scope cards, Scope 4.5, all the synths (except Prodyssey), all the effects, third party stuff from space f and John Bowen that even if i was technically capable (which i am so obviously not) of hacking devices that i would be morally capable of it? You, sir, insult me.

next to nothing · Post by **next to nothing** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:21 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y05EmK66Gsk

manu · Post by **manu** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:24 am

Who is the next one ?

Don't put all your energy to make J.Cooper banning me,he already took his decision.
History is history and truth is truth,that's all for me

As you shown me you have something very important to hide,i'll let you in your nice place

See you soon, and goodbye.
Cheers,

next to nothing · Post by **next to nothing** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:28 am

im glad you found inner peace.

kylie · Post by **kylie** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:31 am

manu wrote:Right Kylie and i 'm not Astroman.I edit my post.

the difference between you and astroman is that in his opinion he does nothing legally relevant, and you think he's wrong. so it is just consequent for him not to edit his post, as it is for you to edit yours. your and his truth differ in the way you both look at the facts given.

Next time you see a member doing this,hope you will tell him the same.

well, if I'd share your point of view, I'd certainly do it. but since this is not the case, I'm sorry to say that I won't. it would be your task, then.

for you, it would be furthermore consequent to start a lawsuit against CW/SC, since they offer a tool (called Scope Fusion Platform, or SFP for short) which allows hacking of software devices/modules coded for explicit and exclusive use with this hacking tool. since the quoted procedure clearly shows that this SFP is used for hacking, it is evident that SFP can not be legal. if you can provide a different method for hacking, then sue the makers of the used tool as well (I assume the SDK is a worthy candidate to look at, and it is even produced by the same company, so one could easily guess that it might be a hacking tool, too).

if your intentions are really truthful and honest, then go for it.

-greetings, markus-

firubbi · Post by **firubbi** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:39 am

dont go away

kylie · Post by **kylie** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:53 am

firubbi wrote:dont go away

this was your post number 666, firubbi. coincidence?

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:54 pm

kylie wrote:
manu wrote:Right Kylie and i 'm not Astroman.I edit my post.
the difference between you and astroman is that in his opinion he does nothing legally relevant, and you think he's wrong. so it is just consequent for him not to edit his post, as it is for you to edit yours. your and his truth differ in the way you both look at the facts given.

sorry folks, but I have some difficulties to follow the context - did I miss something ?
Manu repeats to post a quote that was made by Eric, containing old content I found a bit too tacky (or call it inviting), so I had edited it.
My original post does not even contain the same text.

It's very interesting that the alterations in red color originally were signed by Eric as the Author, but now it's suddenly Manu

as you can read in the beginning of the text, I wouldn't have written a word if Eric hadn't let 'the cat out of the bag... - and mind you: the respective post was an answer to an explicite question that forum member Counterparts asked about this so called 'hacking' thingy.

There is no hacking regarding this so-called procedure because there is no such procedure.
And to remove a module from the routing window by 'point-click-delete' is a regular process in Scope's everyday use and not a hacking instruction

I might be able to give you some of the latter, but I wouldn't do it, even less in a public forum.

cheers, Tom

Post by **garyb** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:46 pm

no need.

kylie · Post by **kylie** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 11:07 pm

astroman wrote:sorry folks, but I have some difficulties to follow the context - did I miss something ?
Manu repeats to post a quote that was made by Eric, containing old content I found a bit too tacky (or call it inviting), so I had edited it.
My original post does not even contain the same text.

you mean, he quoted something you actually never said that way? uhuh

well, at least I kinda remember to have read something like the quoted part earlier. anyway, you described a feature of sfp that was just forgot to mention in the manual

-greetings, markus-

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 2:14 am

well, here's my original post with the edit date below

Posted: 02 Mar 2007 17:14 Post subject:
astroman wrote:
Counterparts wrote:...
Where's the PROOF that this has been happening? And (as a software developer myself), why on Earth would you need to rip off somebody else's algorithms/code to build something as straightforward as a MIDI matrix router?! It's hardly rocket science.
well, I didn't want to participate here, but since the cat's out of bag anyway...

this hacking blurb is complete bullsh*t - there is no hacking involved at all...

if the device is provided 'as is' then it's the sole responsibility of the developer to have taken any precautions to prevent unintended use, if 'use' is restricted to the system's regular operation, which opening a file unquestionably is.
The 'user' can in no way be assumed to 'think' for another person - that IS a legal matter of fact and I'm absolutely sure to have read sentences with exactly that reasioning.
...
cheers, Tom
Last edited by astroman on 05 Mar 2007 00:27; edited 1 time in total

I might be able tell you some background of this this 'feature', but that might indeed read like an invitation to fiddle with things you're not supposed to.

It's just a side-effect and it has no meaning for regular SFP operation, so it doesn't belong in any manual. The displayed graphical layer is usually empty and it has also been explained by one of the developers why it's better to have it cleaned before finishing a device.

cheers, Tom

Post by **garyb** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 2:19 am

no need...

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 2:28 am

yes, Gary - there is no need...
but I've been patient long enough to be called names and people keep referring to this BS, frequently reading only parts anyway, and as you know... something remains...

cheers, Tom

FrancisHarmany · Post by **FrancisHarmany** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 2:29 am

I love you all so much

manu · Post by **manu** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 2:36 am

edited,you are right Garyb;-)
NO need.As it was just a forgotten mention from a manual

kylie wrote:
astroman wrote:sorry folks, but I have some difficulties to follow the context - did I miss something ?
Manu repeats to post a quote that was made by Eric, containing old content I found a bit too tacky (or call it inviting), so I had edited it.
My original post does not even contain the same text.
you mean, he quoted something you actually never said that way? uhuh
well, at least I kinda remember to have read something like the quoted part earlier. anyway, you described a feature of sfp that was just forgot to mention in the manual

-greetings, markus-

Cheers,

Post by **garyb** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 2:55 am

hates?

stop hate mongering please. anger is not hate, it is transitory. hate brews continuously without provocation. it is illness...

check yo self.
fo yo wreck yo self.

FrancisHarmany · Post by **FrancisHarmany** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:02 am

garyb wrote:hates?

stop hate mongering please. anger is not hate, it is transitory. hate brews continuously without provocation. it is illness...

check yo self.
fo yo wreck yo self.

hate springs from fear. haters are all a bunch of sheep without
self control.

Mr Arkadin · Post by **Mr Arkadin** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:40 am

“Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.”

manu · Post by **manu** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 5:21 am

Lies leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.Suffering leads pain .Truth causes lots of pain .Lies leads truth.

Mathematics philosophy

Cheers,

Mr Arkadin · Post by **Mr Arkadin** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 5:28 am

Personally i live my life using common sense rather than mathematics.