braincell wrote:This thread is about Cubase 4.1 since so many of us use Cubase. You don't like the Cubase upgrade policy? This one is free. How do you like the Scope upgrade policy? As in:
NO UPGRADES!!!!
You seem to be confusing the (now generally accepted) difference between software upGRADES and upDATES.
UpGRADES are usually charged for (and include new features - as well as (often as not) new bugs. Sometimes, existing features are even removed!
As you may know, the last "upgrade" to Cubase 4 actually removed Direct X support (without any prior warning from Steinberg), which rules it (and any subsequent updates) completely out of the question for me.
UpDATES (such as Cubase 4.1) are, of course, not "free" at all but included in the price of the "upgrade". This is normal practice. Updates are usually mainly bug-fixes with maybe a few minor improvements to the software.
One of the many problems with Steinberg as a company is that they offer remarkably few of these interim updates compared to other software companies (which would be fine if everything was reasonably bug-free and working properly in the first place, but invariably with Steinberg that is not the case - they are notorious for rushing the release of new versions).
Often, long standing bugs are even then not fixed before they expect users to buy the next "upgrade" - if I remember correctly, this has been the case with every Cubase version since at least VST 5 - and so it goes on until a sufficient number of users get wise to this game and refuse to pay for any new "upgrades" until they have a properly working current version (clearly, this hasn't yet happened!).
You are partially right about Scope though - although there have been both upgrades and updates in the past, there has been none for a long time now. But at least the system still generally works very well. Of course, it's also important to remember that a Scope package isn't just the software, we also have a great piece of hardware with on-board DSP, brilliant-sounding synths and sound processors together with a comprehensive I/O system too!
Regards,
Badger
Yes cause bigger is always better innit? 
i find Cubase a bloated fat bastard (and not in the good scope4live sense). Strip it to the essentials i want and it would probably fit on a floppy, but then it wouldn't have all the things you want, like Rewire (never use) etc. You can't please all the people all the time. You're the first person who has even suggested Scope having Rewire - do you think they're going to spend hours developing that for very little reward (i know no-one who uses it).
