Hello,
I think it's time for an upgrade. Can I add an external clocking device to my Creamware system without any problems?
I have a big pro scope card with A16Ultra connected via Z link cables. I can get an Aardwark Sync II. or maybe Apogee Big Ben
BUT don't know if this will improve the A16 Ultra converters...
Has anyone tried this before?
A16Ultra - would Big Ben improve it's sound?
A16Ultra - would Big Ben improve it's sound?
God is the source of all sounds!
my answer to your pm(as though my opinion meant something):
well, a good clock will tighten up the sound, make it more focused, but the z-link connection is very good. unless you also buy a syncplate for the card and have a number of other digital devices and you're going to clock the whole studio via bnc, i don't think the expense justifies the level of improvement possible....
well, a good clock will tighten up the sound, make it more focused, but the z-link connection is very good. unless you also buy a syncplate for the card and have a number of other digital devices and you're going to clock the whole studio via bnc, i don't think the expense justifies the level of improvement possible....
Well my production is fairly good. But for sure you can't compare the A16Ultra to Apogee... and we noticed that there is not the same wideness and clarity as in the super hi-end converters... so my friend suggested to get me an external clock like Aardsync or Big Ben to make it a little better. This would be much cheaper solution than to buy new converters.
BTW, has anone compared the A16Ultra to RME ADI 2 sound wise?
BTW, has anone compared the A16Ultra to RME ADI 2 sound wise?
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yes, well, the RME is nice(and stereo, so it's 4x as expensive as the A16...not exactly a fair comparison), but it won't compare to the apogee either, but neither are anywhere near the price of the apogee...
i do think that improving the clock will help, but the real benefit in using a clock would be to use that same clock for both scope and the converter, also the difference will be subtle(but real).
what mic pres are you using?
i do think that improving the clock will help, but the real benefit in using a clock would be to use that same clock for both scope and the converter, also the difference will be subtle(but real).
what mic pres are you using?
I was thinking to maybe add the ADI RME 2 for overdubs and external clock for the OTB mixing.
How can I clock the Scope and A16 at the same time? Possible without any extra cards?
I am using really hi-end preamps. It's all DIY stuff but hey, I am really good at it.
I have Neve and API DIY preamps which rock
How can I clock the Scope and A16 at the same time? Possible without any extra cards?
I am using really hi-end preamps. It's all DIY stuff but hey, I am really good at it.
I have Neve and API DIY preamps which rock
God is the source of all sounds!
clock both? sync plate.
DIY? nice. i just wondered. as you know, the pre is a much bigger part of the equation.
sure, you can go into the sp/dif with the RME. i don't think the RME's clock is that much better, however. one hint that the RME is not quite as high-end as it appears is the rca digital out. a truly high-end stereo converter would have an xlr digital out...
DIY? nice. i just wondered. as you know, the pre is a much bigger part of the equation.
sure, you can go into the sp/dif with the RME. i don't think the RME's clock is that much better, however. one hint that the RME is not quite as high-end as it appears is the rca digital out. a truly high-end stereo converter would have an xlr digital out...
i have a rosendahl nanoclocks, but i sync a dat player two AD/DAs and scope.
i definitely think that a real good clock makes a difference, it's suble, but every bit counts.... the thing about clock is, you really want all the interconnected digital devices to have the exact same clock, that way, all your digital path maintains the data in an orderly fashion, giving the clearest sound. the time period in a clock signal is very small. 44,100 pulses per second, which must be precise. if the signal is shared by two devices, the impedance is lowered and the signal becomes less reliable. if the signal goes from one device to another then there is the chance of corruption in the transfer. therefore, a bnc connector is used from the clock distributor(usually built into the clock), to each clocked device.
so, i have a syncplate.
no point in getting a clock without a syncplate. the clock in the A16 is not that bad, but if you want to maximize potential(which is not to say that badly recorded, mixed or mastered audio will suddlenly sound good), then by all means, get a clock they're great. if you can afford a clock, you can afford a syncplate, it's part of the cost. many systems can't be fully synced to a master clock....
so, sorry if i seemed negative on the clock, i guess i was really fighting doing all the typing.
i definitely think that a real good clock makes a difference, it's suble, but every bit counts....
the thing about clock is, you really want all the interconnected digital devices to have the exact same clock, that way, all your digital path maintains the data in an orderly fashion, giving the clearest sound. the time period in a clock signal is very small. 44,100 pulses per second, which must be precise. if the signal is shared by two devices, the impedance is lowered and the signal becomes less reliable. if the signal goes from one device to another then there is the chance of corruption in the transfer. therefore, a bnc connector is used from the clock distributor(usually built into the clock), to each clocked device.so, i have a syncplate.
no point in getting a clock without a syncplate. the clock in the A16 is not that bad, but if you want to maximize potential(which is not to say that badly recorded, mixed or mastered audio will suddlenly sound good), then by all means, get a clock they're great. if you can afford a clock, you can afford a syncplate, it's part of the cost. many systems can't be fully synced to a master clock....
so, sorry if i seemed negative on the clock, i guess i was really fighting doing all the typing.
afaik you have to connect the a16 via ADAT with scope if you want to sync it with wordclock. So your ZLink IOs would be lost for scope...
If you use Zlink, scope has to be master (at least master for a16).
You cant use Zlink connections and "Sync to WC" at the same time!
Just as a reminder...
Cheers,
Jan
If you use Zlink, scope has to be master (at least master for a16).
You cant use Zlink connections and "Sync to WC" at the same time!
Just as a reminder...
Cheers,
Jan
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