If I wanted to use two dedicated audio computers, one for Scope only and the other one for VST programs and instruments etc, what would be the best way to connect them?
ADAT? Fx-Teleport? Z-Link?
I have a Luna 2 and Pro Plus cards and a 2496 box and will buy more equipment, if necessary (another Pro card and an A-16). But not if these are not needed.
Can two computers with cards with Z-link be connected directly through Z-link?
Or is a A-16 with two Z-links needed?
How to connect two computers
FX TEleport for me rocks 
NO Jitter, sample precision, VST/VSTi compatible, etc.
For midi link try also Midioverlan, it works in parallel with FX Teleport without problems.
NO Jitter, sample precision, VST/VSTi compatible, etc.
For midi link try also Midioverlan, it works in parallel with FX Teleport without problems.
4PC + Scope 5.0 + no more Xite + 2xScope Pro + 6xPulsarII + 2xLunaII + SDK + a lot of devices (Flexor III & Solaris 4.1 etc.) + Plugiator.
i did that exactly (one pc for hard disk and mixing - and another one for sampler/mixing/ and additional synths and effects). both cards share a single a16. The easiest way to set up all this was finally by midi (its simpler, and really enough (as it is not brand new and doesn't have illimited possibilities). I didn't want to use Fx Teleport though (i need the network for other things such as internet and sharing files between the two pcs). and i do not use any vst synths or effect anymore except L2 and a few eqs and guitar rig, all the rest if from scope).... i
So midi and adat was my- archaic but that pleases me - solution (the adat is needed only if you want to send a track from pc1 to an effect on pc2 - for the rest, the pc2 outputs in stereo only (as it is already mixed in that pc2 which also has a dsp board so it is really like if I had twice the dsp mixing power.
It is really a matter of organisation and what you want to do.
if you want to spread 1 daw on 2 pc, use fx teleport. if you want to organize your stuff in a certain way, then fx teleport is probably not essential and other solutions would work too (again, i use only scope stuff, and there is no teleportation facility for it
So midi and adat was my- archaic but that pleases me - solution (the adat is needed only if you want to send a track from pc1 to an effect on pc2 - for the rest, the pc2 outputs in stereo only (as it is already mixed in that pc2 which also has a dsp board so it is really like if I had twice the dsp mixing power.
It is really a matter of organisation and what you want to do.
if you want to spread 1 daw on 2 pc, use fx teleport. if you want to organize your stuff in a certain way, then fx teleport is probably not essential and other solutions would work too (again, i use only scope stuff, and there is no teleportation facility for it
Thanks, eminardi and spacef. Good replies.
Actually I had been thinking of both these two ways of connecting two pcs. As I said I just made this silly question to be sure.
I know the midi solution from my earlier set ups. Fx teleport and adat are new to me.
I think it's the teleport this time as I don't have anything else networked here.
These two pcs will be used just for music. I have a separate pc for "office" and internet use.
Thanks again, for your replies
Actually I had been thinking of both these two ways of connecting two pcs. As I said I just made this silly question to be sure.
I know the midi solution from my earlier set ups. Fx teleport and adat are new to me.
I think it's the teleport this time as I don't have anything else networked here.
These two pcs will be used just for music. I have a separate pc for "office" and internet use.
Thanks again, for your replies
Gigabyte lan and a gigabyte router are suggested for any teleport usage.
I can play several VSTi (average 10-12) and midioverlan channel in one session without problems.
In parallel I can play op to 8/10 Scope synth routed via ADAT connections
(I usa as "FX teleport synth rack" a AMD athlon XP 2400+, 640 mb ram! Yust imagine with a core 2 duo!!!)
It's like an extyernal "UAD" pc synth rack
3 years with full satisfaction with this setup.
I can play several VSTi (average 10-12) and midioverlan channel in one session without problems.
In parallel I can play op to 8/10 Scope synth routed via ADAT connections
(I usa as "FX teleport synth rack" a AMD athlon XP 2400+, 640 mb ram! Yust imagine with a core 2 duo!!!)
It's like an extyernal "UAD" pc synth rack
3 years with full satisfaction with this setup.
4PC + Scope 5.0 + no more Xite + 2xScope Pro + 6xPulsarII + 2xLunaII + SDK + a lot of devices (Flexor III & Solaris 4.1 etc.) + Plugiator.
Thanks eminardi! Nice to hear, in deed.
My system will be a bit simpler so I don't think I need a midi over lan system. I have lot of old hardware synths (DX-7 v.1 with DX max , MKS-80 Super Jupiter, Wavestation, M1Rex, TG-77, two TX-7s etc) so the midi precision is not so essential. And I'm not a good keyboard player myself. No live gigs. Just an old composer/arranger.
My two pcs for music use only :
Intel D865PERL, 2,8GHz P4, 2048MB, Antec Sonata for the Scope cards (Pro Plus and a Luna 2, one more Pro or a Project card in very near future)
I'm building a new pc with Intel DP965LT, E6600, 2048 Corsair 667, WD hds, and an Antec Titan650 case. Still waiting for some of the parts to arrive.
I have Cubase SX3 and other Steinberg progs and VSTIs and N.I. Komplete 4. Etc...
I need a good virtual orchestra and I'm still uncertain which one it'll be. Until now I've worked with real instruments. Yes, big bands and several times with symphony orchestras. Compared to them even the best sampler orchestras sound horrible.
Maybe it's best to give up the imitations and concentrate on synths only?
My system will be a bit simpler so I don't think I need a midi over lan system. I have lot of old hardware synths (DX-7 v.1 with DX max , MKS-80 Super Jupiter, Wavestation, M1Rex, TG-77, two TX-7s etc) so the midi precision is not so essential. And I'm not a good keyboard player myself. No live gigs. Just an old composer/arranger.
My two pcs for music use only :
Intel D865PERL, 2,8GHz P4, 2048MB, Antec Sonata for the Scope cards (Pro Plus and a Luna 2, one more Pro or a Project card in very near future)
I'm building a new pc with Intel DP965LT, E6600, 2048 Corsair 667, WD hds, and an Antec Titan650 case. Still waiting for some of the parts to arrive.
I have Cubase SX3 and other Steinberg progs and VSTIs and N.I. Komplete 4. Etc...
I need a good virtual orchestra and I'm still uncertain which one it'll be. Until now I've worked with real instruments. Yes, big bands and several times with symphony orchestras. Compared to them even the best sampler orchestras sound horrible.
Maybe it's best to give up the imitations and concentrate on synths only?
You're right, stardust. Imitations are imitations not the real thing. And as I have worked with real musicians and real instruments I don't really see no point of trying to use imitations in my music. I have been very lucky in getting my music played and well played by real and very good professionals. During all these years, since start of 60s.
But I also like (you in US would say "love") good synth sounds. And I've used them in my music, too. The contrasts between a synthetic sound and a good player using a real solo instrument can be really interesting, IMHO.
So I think I'll limit my use of sampled orchestral instruments just to proofreading (proof listening actually) my scores, or making a work demo of a new composition or arrangement.
Just now I'm preparing material for a 1,5 hr concert of my music. I'm writing this reply just to have a short break after having worked all day from the early morning.
Cheers to yourself, stardust. Best wishes from quite far-away
But I also like (you in US would say "love") good synth sounds. And I've used them in my music, too. The contrasts between a synthetic sound and a good player using a real solo instrument can be really interesting, IMHO.
So I think I'll limit my use of sampled orchestral instruments just to proofreading (proof listening actually) my scores, or making a work demo of a new composition or arrangement.
Just now I'm preparing material for a 1,5 hr concert of my music. I'm writing this reply just to have a short break after having worked all day from the early morning.
Cheers to yourself, stardust. Best wishes from quite far-away
welll...I've tried kontakt and the exs one and various vst's and free sampletank stuff and up till recently none of them grabbed me that hard at all . I quite liked absynth but didn't buy it and since coming across the scope synths I just gave up the vst's altogether . I wasn't really knocked over by the sts series although I think they are pretty good . For me the best combination is scope for synths and interface and giga studio for sampler . The giga piano you get free with giga studio sounds great although I'm not a pianist and the various string demos you get free are also very good ,plus, they seem to be almost giving away a lot of the sample libraries at the moment . For good deals on giga check out scitscat music in florida . I'm not a scientist or even a trained musician but I think I know what sounds real and for me it's scope and giga .
Be warned though giga is real resource hog . I went out and bought a new [second hand] computer just for it once I saw how much it needed but if you are already running two music computers ther's no problem . I haven't linked them yet but I'm planning on midi out from scope and sx3 and spdif back in . I'm running 2 scope cards and the giga machine has an audiophile 192 in it ,I went the 192 because it can be slave or master for the spdif and tascam seemed to like m-audio and they support gsif2 drivers. I was thinking of splitting my 2 creamware cards but I just couldn't do it to them .
cheers
Paul
Be warned though giga is real resource hog . I went out and bought a new [second hand] computer just for it once I saw how much it needed but if you are already running two music computers ther's no problem . I haven't linked them yet but I'm planning on midi out from scope and sx3 and spdif back in . I'm running 2 scope cards and the giga machine has an audiophile 192 in it ,I went the 192 because it can be slave or master for the spdif and tascam seemed to like m-audio and they support gsif2 drivers. I was thinking of splitting my 2 creamware cards but I just couldn't do it to them .
cheers
Paul
skwawks, although I have lots of vst's and several hardware synths I agree with you about the samplers, and like I said I use them for basic demos only.
However, I'm a real synth fan, and use them for creating sounds that are not available from real instruments.
What you say about Gigastudio is most interesting. I have not tried it but obviously I should, before I give up the idea of a sampler orchestra or sampler string section.
However, I'm a real synth fan, and use them for creating sounds that are not available from real instruments.
What you say about Gigastudio is most interesting. I have not tried it but obviously I should, before I give up the idea of a sampler orchestra or sampler string section.
Thanks Paul, I'll try Giga. It's been on my list of interesting options for a while.
P.S. Just downloaded Giga manual and something else I thought would make interesting reading.
Actually I have for some time been interested in the Vienna instrument library. A complete pack would be an overkill and too expensive for me, but maybe the chamber strings or something like that...
P.S. Just downloaded Giga manual and something else I thought would make interesting reading.
Actually I have for some time been interested in the Vienna instrument library. A complete pack would be an overkill and too expensive for me, but maybe the chamber strings or something like that...