I have always used 2 gigs of RAM for all of my different versions of GS. Since 64 bit Vista is next one can only assume that the app will load twice the content, so twice the RAM should do it also.
This mobo looks like a logical choice for Scope also w/ 3 x 32 bit PCI's, and the PCI-e is 16x which I will stick a good eVGA graphics board into.
Even w/ 2 gigs of RAM, giga only uses 1.15 GB's in 32bit. But this board looks to be sweet w/ 4GB's of DDRIII, and a fast 8MB L2 cache Xeon Quad Core. So twice would be close to 3GB of RAM just for GS4.
Hell, even the Q6600 can load 13 instances of Gigastudios convolusion reverb Gigapulse, which sounds really good.
I Will Upgrade Forever I Guess,
Motherboard 4 Scope / Gigastudio 4
That's a great motherboard. Supermicro seems to want some of the gamers market share, but I miss the way they use to have the memory aligned paralell to the PCI slots. In a 4U Rackmounted DAW that design allowed it to be right under a rear case fan, as in the P4SCT+II. Perfect for Gigastudio and Scope IMHO.
I shall be watching them with a close eye again, as they seem to be catching Intels samples as early as Asus. Hence the early releases of their products. Asus use to beat Intel to the market with their designs for mobos, and now Supermicro for showing their loyalty to Intel is in the mix as well. Tyan is being punished for their support of AMD, as they are always late w/ Intel product based mobo releases.
Funny how big grown up corporations still act like little bitches,..........I'll take my ball and play somewhere else, nah, nah, nanana !!
Supermicro Have Years Of Experience In Mission Critical Designs !!
My old P4SCT+II is gone to Tennessee somewhere, but that Scope / Giga DAW never, ever crashed, and made me some serious jack. I wouldn't hesitate in buying any of their products, ever.
I shall be watching them with a close eye again, as they seem to be catching Intels samples as early as Asus. Hence the early releases of their products. Asus use to beat Intel to the market with their designs for mobos, and now Supermicro for showing their loyalty to Intel is in the mix as well. Tyan is being punished for their support of AMD, as they are always late w/ Intel product based mobo releases.
Funny how big grown up corporations still act like little bitches,..........I'll take my ball and play somewhere else, nah, nah, nanana !!
Supermicro Have Years Of Experience In Mission Critical Designs !!
My old P4SCT+II is gone to Tennessee somewhere, but that Scope / Giga DAW never, ever crashed, and made me some serious jack. I wouldn't hesitate in buying any of their products, ever.
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Hello friend!
With all honesty, I would watch out very carefully before getting into this particular piece of hardware. Why? The answer is DDR3.
You will probably not get much improvement from DDR3 versus DDR2, because the bandwidth of the rest of the components of the fastest PC you can get today, are not ready to support it.
Take care and read the reviews around, talk with some experts and Gary, and find out what is going on really in the market, as DDR3 is in its face of experiment, so… it is perhaps better if you are not part of their experiment…
Just in case...
With all honesty, I would watch out very carefully before getting into this particular piece of hardware. Why? The answer is DDR3.
You will probably not get much improvement from DDR3 versus DDR2, because the bandwidth of the rest of the components of the fastest PC you can get today, are not ready to support it.
Take care and read the reviews around, talk with some experts and Gary, and find out what is going on really in the market, as DDR3 is in its face of experiment, so… it is perhaps better if you are not part of their experiment…
Just in case...
*MUSIC* The most Powerful Language in the world! *INDEED*
Agreed Brotha' Man Nestor,
I was planning on buying this in 2008, after the dust settles w/ DDRIII. Believe me this FSB boost will be a blessing with a quad core using a well coded multithreaded app like C4, Sonar, etc. Actually Cakewalk and Intel were demo'ing their 64bit app w/ a friend of mine on keys ( Joey Dee ) 2 years ago, so I know Cakewalk has been using Intel SSE3 and SSE4 instruction sets for 2 years now. Yamaha will not allow Steinberg to fall behind, so I am expecting a great Giga 4 / Cubase 5 DAW early spring of '08. If the benchmarks aren't impressive, I will stay with the 965, as the 865 / 875 chipsets worked fine for 3 years !! That's what so good about Scope / and Giga, you don't have to upgrade w/ them until 64 bit Vista arrives. I'm sure SonicCore even sees that coming round the bend.
Peace,
I was planning on buying this in 2008, after the dust settles w/ DDRIII. Believe me this FSB boost will be a blessing with a quad core using a well coded multithreaded app like C4, Sonar, etc. Actually Cakewalk and Intel were demo'ing their 64bit app w/ a friend of mine on keys ( Joey Dee ) 2 years ago, so I know Cakewalk has been using Intel SSE3 and SSE4 instruction sets for 2 years now. Yamaha will not allow Steinberg to fall behind, so I am expecting a great Giga 4 / Cubase 5 DAW early spring of '08. If the benchmarks aren't impressive, I will stay with the 965, as the 865 / 875 chipsets worked fine for 3 years !! That's what so good about Scope / and Giga, you don't have to upgrade w/ them until 64 bit Vista arrives. I'm sure SonicCore even sees that coming round the bend.
Peace,
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Now I’ve got you clearly Jimmy.
As I myself am reading quite a lot lately because I want to get ready for the update with clear knowledge, I’ve also considered the board you are talking about. In fact, as a board it is a real marvel, nothing to say against, everybody reviewing it says it is a “piece of art”.
Almost all of them say the same thing:
First, that the DDR3 is too expensive today, and that they are nevertheless not superior in capability and speed, compared with the DDR2, the real difference is about 5%, still too poor. But there are manufacturers planning to release incredibly powerful DDR3 modules in the near future (6 months or so), up to 2500MHZ, crazy!!!
Then Intel will come up with extremely powerful with the name of, precisely, “extreme”, (some of them are already out), and there machines will double the bandwidth of the present ones, and will be also much more faster.
So I’m glad you are planning to upgrade later, as right now would be loosing some of your money for nothing better of what you already have.
Now, talking about the intel board you are using, I dislike the fact that in can handle only 1.8 volts. This is a problem, as you cannot so, add up to 8GB or ram in the future, being forced to use 512MB modules instead of the 1GB.
This makes me think again, in Asus boards or wait till Intel comes with a new, better suited board for the Quad core supporting much higher voltages for the DDR-2-3 in general.
Cheers and good luck!
As I myself am reading quite a lot lately because I want to get ready for the update with clear knowledge, I’ve also considered the board you are talking about. In fact, as a board it is a real marvel, nothing to say against, everybody reviewing it says it is a “piece of art”.
Almost all of them say the same thing:
First, that the DDR3 is too expensive today, and that they are nevertheless not superior in capability and speed, compared with the DDR2, the real difference is about 5%, still too poor. But there are manufacturers planning to release incredibly powerful DDR3 modules in the near future (6 months or so), up to 2500MHZ, crazy!!!
Then Intel will come up with extremely powerful with the name of, precisely, “extreme”, (some of them are already out), and there machines will double the bandwidth of the present ones, and will be also much more faster.
So I’m glad you are planning to upgrade later, as right now would be loosing some of your money for nothing better of what you already have.
Now, talking about the intel board you are using, I dislike the fact that in can handle only 1.8 volts. This is a problem, as you cannot so, add up to 8GB or ram in the future, being forced to use 512MB modules instead of the 1GB.
This makes me think again, in Asus boards or wait till Intel comes with a new, better suited board for the Quad core supporting much higher voltages for the DDR-2-3 in general.
Cheers and good luck!
*MUSIC* The most Powerful Language in the world! *INDEED*
Part of Intels strategy, has always been to keep AMD off of their ass. For five years up until the E series CPU's, AMD was really a better CPU in several areas. I bought Intel only because of it's stability w/ Giga / Scope DAW's. Even though I knew AMD was an engineering marvel.
I believe that AMD will come back swinging w/ even better designs, but they are publicly owned, and must sell everything thet fab out in hopes of staying alive for the next fight. If they go out of business, we are all screwed, just as we paid 1000 USD for the first 1GHz Coppermine CPU's, Intel's shareholders care little about loyalty when they know they are the only game in town.
It's no thanks to Intel and AMD for forcing this 64bit shit down our throats, but they cause software developers to climb aboard or drown. So I suppose it would be wise to read and watch this with an open eye. Afterall, chance favors the prepared mind.
Who knows, maybe John Bowens Solaris will urge developers to make hardware sequencers again, and we could all tell Microsoft and Intel to kiss our royal asses !! Imagine how refreshing it would be to have everything w/ it's own O.S., similar to the old RISC processors. 64 bit, DDR III, etc. would be used where it is needed only, and everything would be coded for more specific tasks.
This Would Be Sweet Indeed,
I believe that AMD will come back swinging w/ even better designs, but they are publicly owned, and must sell everything thet fab out in hopes of staying alive for the next fight. If they go out of business, we are all screwed, just as we paid 1000 USD for the first 1GHz Coppermine CPU's, Intel's shareholders care little about loyalty when they know they are the only game in town.
It's no thanks to Intel and AMD for forcing this 64bit shit down our throats, but they cause software developers to climb aboard or drown. So I suppose it would be wise to read and watch this with an open eye. Afterall, chance favors the prepared mind.
Who knows, maybe John Bowens Solaris will urge developers to make hardware sequencers again, and we could all tell Microsoft and Intel to kiss our royal asses !! Imagine how refreshing it would be to have everything w/ it's own O.S., similar to the old RISC processors. 64 bit, DDR III, etc. would be used where it is needed only, and everything would be coded for more specific tasks.
This Would Be Sweet Indeed,
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Our own OS? Wow! That would be one of the best possible things to happened… but it would need so much work for just a few owners… I hope so anyway.
I can tell you that Intel is less than 10% of the market in South America, and that here money is not something we have in abundance, so if we can, we do our best to keep costs down. I can assure you that most of PC today in Chile, have AMD inside. Those using Itel are cases like myself, that use it because of a better stability with Scope, or some special situations like ours.
My wife has an AMD machine I build for her and it has been extremely solid for graphic work. Problems? None so far! The only one we have had was a virus, but nothing related with the system itself.
Cheers
I can tell you that Intel is less than 10% of the market in South America, and that here money is not something we have in abundance, so if we can, we do our best to keep costs down. I can assure you that most of PC today in Chile, have AMD inside. Those using Itel are cases like myself, that use it because of a better stability with Scope, or some special situations like ours.
My wife has an AMD machine I build for her and it has been extremely solid for graphic work. Problems? None so far! The only one we have had was a virus, but nothing related with the system itself.
Cheers
*MUSIC* The most Powerful Language in the world! *INDEED*