Yesterday, a friend of mine came at my place and we installed Kubuntu 7 on my PC, he wanted to demonstrate me some new features. I must say that I was impressed. And I was wondering, apart from the drivers issue,...
has anyone ever managed to produce music there, and how?
Kubuntu and Music production
Ubuntu 7 (also Linux) is comming in a dedicated studio version. You can see a list of the music-related apps here:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/PackageList
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/PackageList
I understand where you are comming from, which is one of the reasons why I've started looking into Linux myself. I found and older computer (AMD1200 MHZ) in the garbage the other day, that I'm using to do my initial experiments with LInux on. Theres lots of audio-related apps.
Another distribution of Linux that might be worth checking out is JackLab:
http://jacklab.net/
Good luck.
Another distribution of Linux that might be worth checking out is JackLab:
http://jacklab.net/
Good luck.
There's also this older thread about Linux, that might be interesting:
http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic ... rosegarden
http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic ... rosegarden
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Never even heard of ubuntu til this thread - then saw this:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6610901.stm
Might be of interest to some...
Peace,
Tom
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6610901.stm
Might be of interest to some...
Peace,
Tom
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FreeBob + Ardour + a firewire interface... looks pretty interesting to me at this point.
See:
http://www.kgw.tu-berlin.de/~lac2007/pr ... lmers1.pdf
http://freebob.sourceforge.net/index.ph ... ed_Devices
See:
http://www.kgw.tu-berlin.de/~lac2007/pr ... lmers1.pdf
http://freebob.sourceforge.net/index.ph ... ed_Devices
well, it's not that expensive to own a Mac, but I remember a model that was capable of a similiar noise level... 
the funny thing is that they offered a 'silencer' kit and of course there was a small flood in 3rd party noise-reduced airflow 'improvers', but the main problem could be fixed by a simple firmware update - as it turned out a year (or so) later...
(ok, Apple offered the exchange free of charge, at least for a certain period, but it's not the brightest version of inner-company-communication...)
anyway - I'd choose OSX anytime over Linux, I haven't tried one distribution that didn't p*ss me off for some reason - and I really mean the p-word.
I know the brand of SUSE since Ataris were the latest and greatest, and this company/community entered the IT stage to offer 'a userfriendly, alternative operating system'.
On one side directed towards the unaffordable Apple machines (back then), on the other against the technically inferior M$ experimental GUIs.
That was more than 20(!) years ago.
A million free-lance open-sourcers and 10 times more lines of code later you still get confronted with all that device techie bla bla, sooner or later - you cannot avoid the obscure stuff that no 'user' is interested in.
The guys are cute, but in the end it breaks down to the same vapourware promises one is used by the big M
go to an Apple Shop and fiddle around with one of their machines - that is a full BSD Unix with the shell only 2 folders away and man-pages and all the 325 grep, awk, tcl or whatever 'utilities' - but as a user you don't even notice that it exists and you never need it.
To know about that part of the OS doesn't hurt and is certainly helpful in many cases, but it's not required.
And those who want the full dose of tech and control, well, they know where to find it
That is what makes OSX great and outstanding among all it's x-relatives imho. It's difficult to tell, but it took Apple probably just 3 years to make a 'unix' a Mac OS...
btw I bought the Linux version of Codeweavers Crossover more than a year ago to run a specific developement package - crash.
The Mac version (OSX) runs like a charm...
I'd rather bet on open source versions of audio apps under osx than under Linux.
I've compared PC 'barebones' similiar to the MacMini design and didn't find them significantly cheaper than Macs. First of all it's the Apple DVD drive and memory that's a bit more expensive, but considering the OS and the better design of the box it's nothing dramatic.
Doesn't help with SFP, but Linux doesn't either...
cheers, Tom
the funny thing is that they offered a 'silencer' kit and of course there was a small flood in 3rd party noise-reduced airflow 'improvers', but the main problem could be fixed by a simple firmware update - as it turned out a year (or so) later...
(ok, Apple offered the exchange free of charge, at least for a certain period, but it's not the brightest version of inner-company-communication...)
anyway - I'd choose OSX anytime over Linux, I haven't tried one distribution that didn't p*ss me off for some reason - and I really mean the p-word.
I know the brand of SUSE since Ataris were the latest and greatest, and this company/community entered the IT stage to offer 'a userfriendly, alternative operating system'.
On one side directed towards the unaffordable Apple machines (back then), on the other against the technically inferior M$ experimental GUIs.
That was more than 20(!) years ago.
A million free-lance open-sourcers and 10 times more lines of code later you still get confronted with all that device techie bla bla, sooner or later - you cannot avoid the obscure stuff that no 'user' is interested in.
The guys are cute, but in the end it breaks down to the same vapourware promises one is used by the big M
go to an Apple Shop and fiddle around with one of their machines - that is a full BSD Unix with the shell only 2 folders away and man-pages and all the 325 grep, awk, tcl or whatever 'utilities' - but as a user you don't even notice that it exists and you never need it.
To know about that part of the OS doesn't hurt and is certainly helpful in many cases, but it's not required.
And those who want the full dose of tech and control, well, they know where to find it
That is what makes OSX great and outstanding among all it's x-relatives imho. It's difficult to tell, but it took Apple probably just 3 years to make a 'unix' a Mac OS...
btw I bought the Linux version of Codeweavers Crossover more than a year ago to run a specific developement package - crash.
The Mac version (OSX) runs like a charm...
I'd rather bet on open source versions of audio apps under osx than under Linux.
I've compared PC 'barebones' similiar to the MacMini design and didn't find them significantly cheaper than Macs. First of all it's the Apple DVD drive and memory that's a bit more expensive, but considering the OS and the better design of the box it's nothing dramatic.
Doesn't help with SFP, but Linux doesn't either...
cheers, Tom
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One of the most appealing things about Linux is that it's the only real alternative to the tyranni of Microsoft out there. Microsoft owns a big portion of Apple, and I don't want to support that corrupted monopoly ever again if I can avoid it. If Linux could be bought, Microsoft would have bought it ages ago, just to get rid of the potential marketing threat it represents.
Linux, the OS-choise of a free man
One of the most appealing things about Linux is that it's the only real alternative to the tyranni of Microsoft out there. Microsoft owns a big portion of Apple, and I don't want to support that corrupted monopoly ever again if I can avoid it. If Linux could be bought, Microsoft would have bought it ages ago, just to get rid of the potential marketing threat it represents.
Linux, the OS-choise of a free man
please, don't call me that...
I've been an Apple evangelist (and I still stand by that) in the pre-OS9 days (OS8 was where it started to s*ck...)
Apple made OSX only to get into the same update spiral as M$, their own (original OS up to version 7) was just too reliable, noone has pointed to that fact more than me...
I've also pointed out that this 'progess' blurb is pure bs, as noone knows what would have come out of OS 7, if the same effort had been put into it as in OSX.
But some (who know about the details of the 'classic' Mac OS) may guess...
nevertheless the hiding of a (powerful) highly technical OS from the 'user' point of view as it's accomplished in OSX is more than remarkable.
It is unparalleled in any OS version of an 'X'-flavour - and it must be embarrasing for the Linux folks to realize
Linux is as commercial as anything else on the market, the difference may be the lack of included spyware, but for how long ?
The costs of an OS are not just those of the distribution disks...
cheers, Tom
I've been an Apple evangelist (and I still stand by that) in the pre-OS9 days (OS8 was where it started to s*ck...)
Apple made OSX only to get into the same update spiral as M$, their own (original OS up to version 7) was just too reliable, noone has pointed to that fact more than me...
I've also pointed out that this 'progess' blurb is pure bs, as noone knows what would have come out of OS 7, if the same effort had been put into it as in OSX.
But some (who know about the details of the 'classic' Mac OS) may guess...
nevertheless the hiding of a (powerful) highly technical OS from the 'user' point of view as it's accomplished in OSX is more than remarkable.
It is unparalleled in any OS version of an 'X'-flavour - and it must be embarrasing for the Linux folks to realize
Linux is as commercial as anything else on the market, the difference may be the lack of included spyware, but for how long ?
The costs of an OS are not just those of the distribution disks...
cheers, Tom
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hubird
I'd like to see it run on QNX. tried the live cd years ago, and it ran damn smooth even from cd and with very low use of resources (although it did not support much hardware at that time). but I was kinda impressed... 
-greetings, markus-
ps. so much for an alternative...
-greetings, markus-
ps. so much for an alternative...
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hubird
I was referring to the quote here under.
Speaking about 'easy to tune', a mac is far ahead, and the chance for troubles is a lot smaller, as it's an integrated machine
Minus point: Scope cards don't fit in it
(I use two G4 macs, connected via ADAT, one OSX machine with RME ADAT card, one on OS9 with Scope cards).
Speaking about 'easy to tune', a mac is far ahead, and the chance for troubles is a lot smaller, as it's an integrated machine
Minus point: Scope cards don't fit in it
(I use two G4 macs, connected via ADAT, one OSX machine with RME ADAT card, one on OS9 with Scope cards).
Throttler wrote:There are so many obstacles on the way of music creation that I'm starting to feel dizzy. Perhaps if the Creamware Vista 64 drivers work properly, no Mac will be bought. Otherwise I will "marry" a Mac. Damn, I'm so used to the so easily tuned up desktop PC.