rme & pulsar 2

[assafffff]

hello everyone...
i need your help. i'm using an rme fireface 400. someone want to sell me in very good price a creamware pulsar 2, and i want it for its dsp work which can help me alot ( i think)
my questions
1) can i work with the fireface as the soundcard while i use the pulsar for its plugs and vst's?
2) can i use both cards inputs\outputs at the same time (he has the luna box with it)?
3) what do you say about this card plugs? is it still good comparing for todays vst's?
thanks, assaf

[manfriday]

1) Yes, by using the card in XTC mode. It's not a 'supported' mode, and I think people have mixed results with it.. SOme folks love it.. some folks seem to have a hard time getting it to work yeal well.

2) I think it depends on the DAW you are using and the drivers you choose to use. I could be wrong but I dont think you can use the ASIO drivers of both soundcards at the same time.

3) I dig em.

Right now I am using two scope pros, and a pulsar 2 along with my FF800.
The FF800 is pretty much just used for converters at this point... I set the routing up so the Analog IO for the FF800 is mapped directly to it's ADAT IO.. and those ADAT ports are connected to my scope cards ADAT IO ports.
Works pretty well.

[faxinadu]

can he also map the "souncard" module as his rme master output into sfp?

how would the adat routing go? i understand the rme has adat out, so in scope he will open the adat module and it will automatically recognize his rme adat ports? is this routing done in software or physically connecting the rme adat to sfp adat in hw? not so clear on this...

anyways, good luck assaf, hope it works for you bro

[manfriday]

I dunno about using the soundcard module in SFP..
I only tried fiddling with it a couple times and it didnt seem to work very well, so I avoided it.

The ADAT Routing is pretty simple.. just go from the RME's Adat out to the SCope Adat In..

It doesnt recognize the RME 'ports' per say.. It is simply receiving the lightpipe 'signal'.

The way I did the routing was with the RME mixer.. sending Analog IN 1/2 to ADAT1 out 1/2, Analog in 3/4 to ADAT1 OUT 3/4 etc.. etc..
And then I mapped ADAT1 IN 1/2 to Analog OUT 1/2 on my FF800.
When I was done with that I flashed the mixer state to the FF800 so it would work even if it was not connected to the computer..
IN this way I am basically just using the FF800 as a converter..

I have my daw configured to talk to the Scope drivers NOT the FF800 drivers.


The other way i could do it is I could use the FF800 as the I/O in my DAW and I could route the I/O of the FF800 to the I/O of the Scope system... but then I am limited to only 16 channels in Scope (the 16 adat io).

In the case of a FF400, you'd only have 8 channels of ADAT IO to work with in that manner, so I guess you'd be limited to working with 8 channels...

[Bifop]

What a waste of gear Manfriday !!
You'd maybe better off with an A16 ultra + a good 8 inputs preamp (via adat connection) methinks...
But hey, why not. It's like having a Porsche just for using the ashtray.

[manfriday]

You'd maybe better off with an A16 ultra + a good 8 inputs preamp (via adat connection) methinks...

You are correct! I am planning on selling off the FF800.
I bought a Tango24, which is on it's way to me.. I never record over 48k so it should be fine for me.
I already have an API 3124+ for preamps.. I need to get some cheapo mic pres for 'overflow' when I am out of the good stuff.

I looked for an A16 ultra for a while, but I never found a used one, and I didnt wanna drop 850 on a new one right now...

[Bifop]

Yeah, good plan. The API is a nice unit !
But what a pity, I sold an A16 Ultra for a meagre 500€ a year something ago.....

[hubird]

http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=22077

[manfriday]

yup that is cool, but he only wants to sell the whole thing as a pacakge.

[hubird]

don't give up too fast, mostly time is working in your adventage

[garyb]

the tango24 works very well. i have two of them.

[valis]

hello everyone...
i need your help. i'm using an rme fireface 400. someone want to sell me in very good price a creamware pulsar 2, and i want it for its dsp work which can help me alot ( i think)
my questions
1) can i work with the fireface as the soundcard while i use the pulsar for its plugs and vst's?
2) can i use both cards inputs\outputs at the same time (he has the luna box with it)?
3) what do you say about this card plugs? is it still good comparing for todays vst's?
thanks, assaf

1. Yes, simply have the Fireface's ASIO drivers selected in your main sequencer or audio application. I (and many others here) will probably recommend that you try using Scope wired to the RME via adat & spdif/aes (I have a hammerfall here and use it that way) and use the Scope plugins with Scope.exe rather than as VST's via Scope's XTC functionality. XTC works for some and if you simply must stay within your sequencer then it's there, but using the Scope routing application is like having a functional studio inside of your PC.

2. As above, simply use ADAT & spdif/aes to get the digital signals routed. Given the flexibility of RME's 'totalmix' application and Scope's internal routing, you have more options there than you'll know what to do with.

3. This card has excellent sounding synths, some excellent reverbs (sonictimeworks) and an incredible hardware based modular synthesis environment (especially if you add Flexor & Spacef's BlackBox II). Also the general effects are certainly comparable to any workhorse solution in the software realm, the stock Scope Masterverb is very serviceable for example.

[assafffff]

i gues ill get it in a couple of days and will tell you how its work...
whats the price of the modular expension' and where can i get it?

[faxinadu]

modularIII - http://www.cwaudio.de/index.php?submenu ... g=de?LG=DE

adern flexor extention - http://www.adern.com