Disappointed Powerpulsar owner with AMD/VIA KT133 Comp looking for a CHEAP new comp to be only used for creating music...maybe you can help me, I can´t afford another mistake.
I don't want to use any Audio functions in Cubase, Logic or any other stuff like DX-Pluginz etc.
Just pure MIDI-Sequencing with pulsar offering synth, samplers, mixers and effects. No audio input, no audio output, no audio processing done by the CPU.
I want to have maximum possible reverbs and samplers, stable(!) sampler timing and no clicks.
Don't want to buy P4, too expensive and (so I think) for my purposes oversized. When Pulsar came out, CPU' s had 300 Mhz...why do I need a 2000Mhz CPU when I want to do exactly the same as the first pulsar users ?
So I´m considering about following configuration :
Intel Pentium III 1000 Mhz (would a celeron be enough for my purposes ? Does 100/133 FSB make a big difference ?)
Mobo with I815T (Do you know something better ? What is the cheapest best ?)
CL2 RAM
Any other ideas/suggestions ?
Has anyone experienced problems with pulsar and Dual Monitor setups (exspecially with ATI Radeon VE) ?
And the last question : Is there anyone out there who still owns Cubase 2.5 or 3.0 ? I would be very, very happy If I can get a copy of it...I hate this (for my purposes) useless VST stuff.
PreTHX for every reply...
Wanna buy new Comp for pulsar - please help !
get one of those office boxes with P II 400/500 with Intel BX board from ebay for about 200 bucks, add the Radeon, a decent amount of memory and you'll be fine. For midi processing thats more than enough - and all the sample processing is done on your PowerPulsar anyway. My first Pulsar I ran on antic Siemens LX (!) Celeron 333 and ATI Rage Pro flawlessly.
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algorhythm
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for cheap, the good ol' CUSL2-C is good - the new TUSL2 is good, and will take the newer >1GHZ P3 chips . . .
celeron's don't have the performance of P3s for audio, but you say you don't need/want that. . .
the pentium II suggestion was good, but be very wary of the motherboard.
if you have 3 dps, how are you going to load a lot of reverbs?
celeron's don't have the performance of P3s for audio, but you say you don't need/want that. . .
the pentium II suggestion was good, but be very wary of the motherboard.
if you have 3 dps, how are you going to load a lot of reverbs?
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chakrablue
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because it has PCI power due to smarter chip design on the MoBo - therefore it's important that you get a quality one. Any old BX will be superior to any modern VIA (about 10-16 times the throughput, if I remember right - subhuman has details about this) but I guess not all BXes aren't created equal. In your configuration the busload would be mostly influenced by reverbs which need access to external Ram on the MoBo. The access path is PCI slot, so the Ram doesn't need to be much faster than this - but properly clocked.
Here's my idea of a powerful and cheap solution, well proven. Note, new Celerons actually have 256k cache now, these processors are an excellent value and have LOTS of headroom. The core tops out at around 1400-1500mhz.
Budget DAW:
<li>ASUS TUSL2_C or Gigabyte GA-6OXT Universal Socket 370 Motherboard (Intel i815EP "B" stepping chipset) - Get the version with onboard video if you want a cheap solution and have no video card.<br>
<li>Celeron 1.0A Ghz @ 133mhz FSB for 1,333mhz. I was able to clock this to 1333 at stock voltage with stock heatsync fan, most people are having the same results. The chip is less than $80 bucks, runs extremely cool, and a 133FSB keeps the PCI bus in spec.
<li>IDE harddisk connected on onboard IDE master.
<li>Stick of Crucial PC133 RAM (256megs is good, more if you use samplers)
Throw it in an old case, you have an excellent, fast, and proven solution, the latest (and last?) P3 core is in the new Celeron "A" chips, so this is a really good and cheap solution, which also happens to have among the best PCI performance ever!
Budget DAW:
<li>ASUS TUSL2_C or Gigabyte GA-6OXT Universal Socket 370 Motherboard (Intel i815EP "B" stepping chipset) - Get the version with onboard video if you want a cheap solution and have no video card.<br>
<li>Celeron 1.0A Ghz @ 133mhz FSB for 1,333mhz. I was able to clock this to 1333 at stock voltage with stock heatsync fan, most people are having the same results. The chip is less than $80 bucks, runs extremely cool, and a 133FSB keeps the PCI bus in spec.
<li>IDE harddisk connected on onboard IDE master.
<li>Stick of Crucial PC133 RAM (256megs is good, more if you use samplers)
Throw it in an old case, you have an excellent, fast, and proven solution, the latest (and last?) P3 core is in the new Celeron "A" chips, so this is a really good and cheap solution, which also happens to have among the best PCI performance ever!
I have a radeon VE, good cheap card, dual display works a treat. I've not been so impressed by the drivers, took them a while to pull their finger out. But I would choose ATI, over NVIDIA. Matrox seem to be okay lately. BUT ATI is cheaper.
But the lastest drivers I have no problems with.
I sympathise with your VIA woes, (KT7A-RAID) although I have recently achieved a stable fast configuration, and got rid of PCI overflows. Only took me 4 months to do!
But the lastest drivers I have no problems with.
I sympathise with your VIA woes, (KT7A-RAID) although I have recently achieved a stable fast configuration, and got rid of PCI overflows. Only took me 4 months to do!
that beats my Celeron 333 pretty well.I have tusl2-c and 1,2ghz (it has 256k cache and tualatin core, so it's basically a PIII with 100MHz FSB, also check the new 1300Mhz version) celeron and ATI Radeon VE. For the price it's the most powerful and stable setup for Creamware cards.
With AMD you'll get more power but It might not work as well with you pulsar. If you however do consider amd do not buy any motherboard that has via chipset. Only AMD760 chipset are tested to work properly. Also stay away from SiS and ALi chips.
Anyway with DSP system the processor is not that important and 1,2GHz of celeron should be enough with a pulsar.
With AMD you'll get more power but It might not work as well with you pulsar. If you however do consider amd do not buy any motherboard that has via chipset. Only AMD760 chipset are tested to work properly. Also stay away from SiS and ALi chips.
Anyway with DSP system the processor is not that important and 1,2GHz of celeron should be enough with a pulsar.