Forgive me if I have offended your sensibilities, Gary.On 2006-08-08 23:04, garyb wrote:
yes, astro, that's my opinion.
In my - perhaps comparably limited - experience there's never "no" reason. Hence, the questions.i have run multiprocessor systems sucessfully with scope(dual p3 slot1, if that worked with scope, there's no reason for newer duals not to work)
Kinda like my P2-400 running for six + years? "Runnin' the stink out of it..." I think is the phrase you used.but the single processor systems ran better(smoother and more stable..a well set up single almost NEVER crashes..).
In all likelihood you are overwhelmingly correct in that evaluation. That said, I still recall Frank Hund commenting that regardless of how advanced processors becamse, accelerator cards would find homes as the environments and applications developers chose to write more code rather than more efficient code. Parallel to that I think it is safe to acknowledge that developers have done that many times with SCOPE devices, as well. More DSPs? Heck, now we don't HAVE to be frugal!newer machines might work better than the older ones did, but a single processor machine does plenty of work(for audio, using scope cards, anyway..).
I remember John Bowen pointing out more DSP-lean ways of configuring a modular and achieving the same results. Back then we, (most of us,)only had 4 DSPs available so being clever was important. Certainly a lot has changed since we introduced Pulsar to North America. Then again, not everything....
One might perceive it that way, but one would be inaccurate.i think sometimes people get more concerned with the computer than it's application.
Some. Then again, "pretty nice" is relative.a scope pro costs as much as a pretty nice computer.
Actually, if you're referring to my persistance of inquiry from a focused group of users, I should think you would be able to see that in fact it is my HIGHEST priority. Therefore I came seeking the most solid, reliable, and current information available. I didn't go to Steinberg, (whom I used to rep,)or Bob Lentini, (whom I used to rep and whom I could drive over to see,) or Microsoft or Intel - or for that matter Frank and Wolf and all the boys over in Germany. I came looking for real world answers from real world users that - I had thought - had developed a strong support community and addressed many of these things already. It seemed a practical approach....i've never understood why making that card happy wouldn't be the first priority.
Funny, that's almost the same thing we used to tell people - except for Digidesign execs when they would stop by the booth and wonder what on earth we were going to do with all of those DSPs.... ;o)people always underestimate the value of a scope card until they've used it for a little bit, then they see.....or not..
I miss my Moog collection... sometimes. Less and less as time goes by, mind you. I miss the Leslie more than anything, actually.i think it's better to have as simple(errr, stable even if it's not the most extremely powerful) a setup as possible that does a job real well and then use the stink out of it for a long time, like an old minimoog or 2" studer or neve console,
As I've alluded to earlier, my upgrade intervals are FAR greater than six months. I can only believe that is because I build a monster at the time and then comfortably use it while the rest of the world muddles and searches vainly for their panacea.than to have the latest consumer doodad every six months.
Or running a P2-400 into the ground with a 4-DSP Pulsar and Cubase v5... happily co-existing with the myriad other applications.frankly, if you can't make a world class album with ANY good sequencer(cubase sx, sonor, etc) and scope in a 3ghz or faster machine, then you don't know how to make records or produce music, period,
There's the really exceptional classical guitarist that lives on the other side of town from me. I got him into tripleDAT. I never bothered trying to get him into a Pulsar as he makes world class music with a nylon stringed guitat and some AKGs and Neumanns.... I wonder how he's doing?and that won't change almost forever(although there are sure to be new developements that one might want to take advantage of in the future). good sounding gear never goes out of style. it's not the computer itself that will be good sounding, however...
Thanks once more for the illumination and sharing of perspectives. It is genuinely appreciated that you would take time out of your day to help.
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