Whoever Buys Dynatube,Let Me Know.

virtualstudio · Post by **virtualstudio** » Mon Apr 17, 2006 12:32 pm

now that I solved my problems with my system I gave it a quick try.:

DT sounds Great!!
I'll have to do some more testing.
I used to a have a outboard rocktron preamp plugged into Scope to play guitar this sounds at least as good as not better!
in other words S4L buy it you can't go wrong with this Dynatube added to your live rig

regards

katano · Post by **katano** » Mon Apr 17, 2006 3:00 pm

On 2006-04-17 12:18, voidar wrote:
Cool . I guess I should try that out some time. I bet that setup would exhaust all my 12 DSP's though. But it's kind of nice to really have to work for the tones like in a traditional studio setup.

But you essentially ended up with 4 mono-channels per performance, 8 files total or? Kinda overkill . But who knows.

Dynatube is heavy on the DSP if someone out there wonders . About a stereo-instance of GraphEq per loaded device.

[ This Message was edited by: voidar on 2006-04-17 12:21 ]

hmm, I never mentioned about dsp usage till yet. I have a scope and a pulsar2 (a total of 20 + 1 dsp's). i guess one dynatube will use 1 or 1.5 dsp's at the max (but has to be tested again). we may could open a new thread: how many dynatubes can you load!

what do you mean with 8 files? *confused-i-am*. my little math: 4 dynatubes = 4 mono channels = 2 stereo channels = 2 guitar recording takes (cause playing two dynatubes at once)... maybe it's my bad english

however, best plug of the year!!

cheers
roman

voidar · Post by **voidar** » Mon Apr 17, 2006 3:10 pm

Ah, so it's really just one take. At least the way I see it. And I mean take as in performance. At a minimum I record two performances of the same riff for L/R.

[ This Message was edited by: voidar on 2006-04-17 18:00 ]

katano · Post by **katano** » Tue Apr 18, 2006 12:35 am

On 2006-04-17 16:10, voidar wrote:
Ah, so it's really just one take. At least the way I see it. And I mean take as in performance. At a minimum I record two performances of the same riff for L/R.

Nooooooo

two takes/performances! but with each take you play two dynatubes with different amps, makes a total of 4... hehe, must be an English problem

bosone · Post by **bosone** » Tue Apr 18, 2006 1:40 am

On 2006-04-17 16:00, katano wrote:
hmm, I never mentioned about dsp usage till yet. I have a scope and a pulsar2 (a total of 20 + 1 dsp's). i guess one dynatube will use 1 or 1.5 dsp's at the max (but has to be tested again). we may could open a new thread: how many dynatubes can you load!

dynatube seems very heavy on dsp.
i have pulsar1+luna+pulsar1 srb (11 dsp). i can load 5 dynatube (on an empty project) before reaching dsp limit.

instead, vinco DT seems very light

flips · Post by **flips** » Tue Apr 18, 2006 8:04 am

How good is Dynatube compared to Celco's GAM and Speaker sim? Is Vinco nice? I really only think I need Dynatube's Marshall emulator, but all three with Vinco seems to be a nice offer?

Vinco is a vintage compressor, isn't it? I guess that means it will give a warmer sound than a plain SFP compressor? Maybe also clearer? (If I sound like a newbie, it's because I _am_ pretty new to this stuff.)

(BTW: Is this 189 euro offer only for April?)

--
flips

voidar · Post by **voidar** » Tue Apr 18, 2006 8:38 am

The old Vinco seemes to be modelled after the UA 1176LN "Limiting Amplifier": http://www.uaudio.com/_works/images/pro ... medium.jpg

Vinco DT seemes to be modelled after the UA LA-3A "Leveling Amplifier": http://www.uaudio.com/NewFiles/LA_3A_front.jpg

Both are supposed to be very musical/smooth sounding compressors.

katano · Post by **katano** » Tue Apr 18, 2006 3:52 pm

ok, dsp usage is definitely about 2 dsp's per dynatube instance...

comparism to celmo: i tried the demo 2 years ago, so i couldn't remember well. but i didn't buy it after trying, that means: dynatube sounds way better

MD69 · Post by **MD69** » Tue Apr 18, 2006 4:58 pm

Hi,

4*dynatube instances * 2 DSP = a scope project for an MB sound ??? a bit expansive !!!

I think I'll finally wait for a demo version !

cheers

katano · Post by **katano** » Tue Apr 18, 2006 11:55 pm

you need only one dynatube instance for the mb sound

and of course, if you have not enough dsp power, you will always be able to record the traditional way, while putting dynatube in front of recording... ok, you loose the possibility to change the guitar sound afterwards, but hey, till today, it was best practice with a real amp.

cheers
roman

[ This Message was edited by: katano on 2006-04-19 00:58 ]

voidar · Post by **voidar** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 4:03 am

I doubt I would ever use more than two instances of dynatube per track at a time. Perhaps three for some strange clean-gritty stuff.

Mr Arkadin · Post by **Mr Arkadin** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 4:46 am

Hhhm, got me thinking, with a few more models and the ability to have more than one amp at once... Dynatube ASB anyone?

alfonso · Post by **alfonso** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 5:14 am

On 2006-04-19 05:46, Mr Arkadin wrote:
Hhhm, got me thinking, with a few more models and the ability to have more than one amp at once... Dynatube ASB anyone?

It should be rackmount though!

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 5:16 am

cool idea.. It could be just another ASB series of the 4 different amp heads with built in speaker/cabinet sims. They'd need to bolt a brick to the inside to simulate the weight/build quality though ..

or how about BX-Digital ASB? mmm. Maybe not. How could they charge the same for a DSP hardware version a la ASB as they do for the SFP plug-in?

MD69 · Post by **MD69** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 6:13 am

Hi,

Bought it ... and they are not yet ready to go ASB IMO.

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 7:23 am

Can you explain why you've got that opinion MD69? I want to hear lots of different feedback before considering buying. Bit worried about the 2 DSP per amp, as double what an MV pro uses seems realy heavy.

voidar · Post by **voidar** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 8:13 am

I can load six of them in a moderate project on my 12 DSP's before I get the DSP-overload message.

If they would release the current Dynatube as an ASB, I would definitely need a EQ/OD-pedal in front of it for my needs.

Mr Arkadin · Post by **Mr Arkadin** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 8:27 am

If they would release the current Dynatube as an ASB, I would definitely need a EQ/OD-pedal in front of it for my needs.

Well i was thinking a bit further down the line, ie. there would more models, effects pedals, wah pedals, etc. like a Pod, but with the flexible routing of SCOPE (Pod routing is fixed). It would be rackmounted and bright red...

OK maybe not red.

voidar · Post by **voidar** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 8:35 am

Right. That could work.

And hopefully not red

..

It could come with pop-on/off face-plates

MD69 · Post by **MD69** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 9:15 am

Hi Shoomz,

I think it is better that you test it yourself than rely on my evaluation: guitar sound is really subjective

if you are seeking after a "recorded wall of guitar sound", you will be able to find it. Personnaly, my sound is from clean to ... light crunch for rythmic / arpeggio and crunch for solo. In that kind of sound, dynamic response to your attack is really important. On that particular point, I find the Dynatube inferior to my POD Pro (and the POD Pro far from "the real thing"). On strong attack, Dynatube is convincing (better than a GSP 2101 for example). The clean sound is well, ... clean as expected. For me the problem is with medium attack where the transition from clean to crunch is not as coherent as Line6 and perturb my playing. This evaluation is my guitarist point of view (I play mainly jazz/blues guitar in fact), and you have to know that I am stringent on that point, far more than on replicating the exact amp signature. The sound attack/dynamic is good (except for the heavy MB preset but this can be corrected by a FT clean // MB mix as it is in the real MB Mark1 which blend a clean sound with the High gain stage).

Going ASB means that you bring something better than current contenders which are known and have identified services. On all these points they are not yet ready IMO.

cheers