Question about doepfer midi controllers..

djmicron · Post by **djmicron** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 12:31 am

I'd like to make a custom midi controller and i've found the doepfer kits very easy to use, but i've a question about the use of motorized faders....

If i use the pocket electronic ( http://www.doepfer.de/pe.htm ), is it able to receive midi cc messages from external gear and apply them to the motorized faders ?

Thanks in advance

Salvatore

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djmicron · Post by **djmicron** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 1:08 am

the doepfer staff has answered my question and it is not possible to use motorized faders with the pocket electronics.

Does anyone knows about something similar for the use of motorized faders ?

Thanks

valis · Post by **valis** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 3:04 am

-> http://ucapps.de/ (MIDIbox)

-> http://WWW.PRODIGY-PRO.COM/FORUM

-> http://www.diyaudio.com/

-> http://synthdiy.com/

Useful Information for Newbie DIYers (and others!)
-> http://www.prodigy-pro.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=349

marcuspocus · Post by **marcuspocus** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 4:13 am

behringer bcf2000

SFP/mackie-control/General MIDI compatible

with pc interfacde for programming it

For 200€ i think it's cheaper than doing it yourself.

I know because i made one myself using ucapps midibox blueprint.

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 7:39 am

Check out <a href="http://www.mawzer.com/shop.php">Mawzer</a>

It's a VERY COOL modular midi controller concept. It's been developed significantly since I looked last year with more types of module now available. From the looks of things it's really worth considering if you're in the market for a reconfigurable easy build with lots of flexibility.

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 8:17 am

Man, this Mawzer looks so cool that I just had to link to a photo from their website >>>

I notice that the company news section says they'll be at MusikMesse 2006 Booth 5.1 A30 if you want to put your hands on one for real.

djmicron · Post by **djmicron** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 11:16 am

thanks to all for the links,
i'll check it all

ChrisWerner · Post by **ChrisWerner** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:10 am

Uh, I was looking for a modular midi controller for a long time, even thought to build one on myself.
The Mawzer looks really promising indeed.
Thank you for the link!

I only miss a D-Beam.

Also I like the Lemur concept:
http://www.jazzmutant.com/lemur_overview.php

but heretofore it´s far too expensive.

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astroman · Post by **astroman** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 1:37 am

the Mawzer has been announced here (almost exactly) a year ago - with an invitation to Frankfurt on their website as well...

the site is not exactly clear about dates, but according to their '...we have real photos now' (and the different look of the fader on the photo) the picture posted above is a cool rendering

regarding Scope it's pretty pointless - to rebuilt 'known' synth surface(s) is not possible due to space limitations.
You'd end with a grid of dials and then you could as well use a couple of Behringers (or slaughter them and mount the encoders on a custom surface)
But more importantly there's no midi feedback (at least it's not mentioned anywhere), so happy preset switching...

any typical 'better' Scope synth would require a 1-1.5k Euro investment, which makes the price of the Lemur system not so 'outstanding'

the Lemur's 'physical-behaving' control surfaces are certainly a great source of inspiration.
I have a bunch of similiar ones in the granular CrusherX application that can transmit these midi values into Scope.
Works great - and had at least a 50% influence on my decision to buy the program.

cheers, tom

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 10:27 am

I really like the concept of Mawzer. The simple design of the plug in modules make it something that would be really easy to reconfigure to different layouts whenever needed. I wish them the best of luck with making it a reality as it's a great concept.

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 1:11 pm

how about this layout - a rather humble 35 faders, 39 buttons and 1 dial design
(let alone Solaris, QuantumWave, OP8 etc)

since a case can only hold 32 Elements it needs 2 of them, making
2x base 1200, elements 900, total 2100 Euro

aside from the fact that it's still not possible to model the ergonomic layout of the synth - for the price alone one could get 2 complete Prodyssey ASBs

it's one of those products that look impressive at a first glance, but don't withstand a deeper exam - imho.
At first I liked the connector solution, but the same as above applies.

To make a highly customizable control surface with touchable elements needs a radically different design - if it's supposed to be affordable

cheers, tom

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Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 1:58 pm

I doubt very much that it's designed to control virtual Arp Odyssey patches on whatever. Really this design has it's qualities whether you can afford it or not, just like others.

In theory, just like an analogue modular, it's feasable to construct a large, reconfigurable synth control surface with this gear, which definately has it's merits for the hardcore with enough cash. IE. not me

next to nothing · Post by **next to nothing** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 8:10 pm

imagine when I suddenly start shuffeling those mwaser modules when i change presets on stage! now thats l33t.