Quantum Wave announced

ScofieldKid · Post by **ScofieldKid** » Sun Nov 27, 2005 5:54 pm

Been using this during the past week. This thing is wicked sick! Coming up with a lot of nice patches.

The modulation possibilities are super flexible. Things like WT1 -> LFO1 -> LFO2 -> ... And of course you can modulate the obvious things Res and Cutoff, let alone wavetables. Just mind bending possibilties for modulation.

And there is hidden depth here as well. The Free Env, and Wave Env, and the Shaper... just starting to dig into those.

The interface is very well done. Hats off.

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 2:19 am

it's like cooking - not the ingredients, but their application creates a masterpiece

AzureFeast · Post by **AzureFeast** » Sat Dec 17, 2005 4:49 pm

It is a pity such a synth is not available for the Noah.

I wonder what could be the effort to port it to Noah and how many Noahs were build in total.

Marc

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 11:24 am

not to forget that John already explained why his devices would be impossible to be adapted to the NOAH architecture.
For efficiency they are extremely dynamic in loading and unloading stuff, while the NOAH is a more static architecture.

I already had several of John's synths, so I considered myself 'prepared' for the Quantum...
not at all

it is stunning how deep and individual John handles the 'Wavetable' theme.
this scores a full 10

cheers, Tom

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 5:59 am

That must also be why The Noah is more DSP efficient than SFP.

The Noah's software enviroment due to it's relative simplicity in comparison to SFP, loads about 3 or 4 times faster too.

Hey John only said it would be impossible to port anything to Noah because Creamware blank refuse to give anyone an SDK for it. Outside that, at least John, Wolf & Spacef have all said they'd like to develope for Noah, so I think they could manage to port an application or two, were they *allowed* to develope for it

hehe ... don't I just bite so easy

John, the Quantum demo is wonderfull !!
These guys are right, it IS the missing link

A cut down Quantum on Noah would be killer !!

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astroman · Post by **astroman** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 7:53 am

Shroomz, I would never have written the first 2 sentences in the post above, if I wasn't absolutely certain about their content.

this forum has a search function and the statement originates from the time the NOAH was released... if you cannot find it, well - there also was a forum on CWA's own server way back in time...
unfortunately you missed it completely - I'm sure you would have enjoyed it

cheers, Tom
ps - it was about Solaris, but I don't think the Quantum is less dynamic in resource allocation (at least I can run it pretty well on 8 DSPs only)

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Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 9:13 am

I didn't say anything about straight or easy ports to Noah Tom. Merely that the main hurdle for anyone is that developement for Noah has sadly been disallowed by Creamware not allowing *anyone* an SDK for it. Very unfortunate that.

Sorry for the off topic ranting John.

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 10:01 am

imho it's not that far off topic because everyone would appreciate a Quantum ASB, if there would be a way to take the economic hurdle - which is damn high in that case...

I assume that there is no specific NOAH SDK at all - what you consider kit is most likely cludged together from it's SFP counterpart and probably one hack after the other.

There have been extreme difficulties with NOAH's release - do you really expect a company of CWA's size has the time to develope tools in such a situation ?

this business is not as simple as you put it, Shroomz

anyway, NOAH is a great box for what it does (and that's more than a lot of others ever could), but that's about it.
It has been an economic disaster and is out of production now.
If more people would have bought it, then the situation whould be different, but unfortunately that is not the case.

cheers, tom

johnbowen · Post by **johnbowen** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 1:25 am

On 2005-12-19 10:01, astroman wrote:
imho it's not that far off topic because everyone would appreciate a Quantum ASB, if there would be a way to take the economic hurdle - which is damn high in that case...

I assume that there is no specific NOAH SDK at all - what you consider kit is most likely cludged together from it's SFP counterpart and probably one hack after the other.

Hey, it's nice to see all the positive words regarding the Quantum Wave...but as an ASB type box?!? Can you imagine the size the front panel would have to be!!??!
(Of course, that's not to say something in the 'family' of Wave couldn't be done - maybe like the MicroWave or?)

As far as I know, you are correct - there's no specific SDK for Noah. I think way back in the planning stages there was the intention to make such a thing, but it didn't happen.

cheers,
john b.

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 2:35 am

Astro, so you'd consider the Noah a cludged together, hack after hack instrument? On what foundations other than speculation? Not your usual wise words Tom. You've obviously not experienced the Noah properly, as it's far from your comments may lead people to believe. We've got two other 4-part VA's, a Nov' KS4 & Nord Mod KB. The Noah is streets ahead of both in all areas: Sound quality, diversity & quality of instruments, i/o features, flexibility, build quality, standard of remote GUI enviroment) Hook up a descent midi controller & you've got a machine that's probably the best 4 part VA hardware instrument around to this day.

As for sales figures, well it's just a shame they ditched the idea of making a dev toolkit for it, as that could've helped sell *a lot* more units (even for the original asking price)

John, large graphic display = small panel potential. One section of your synth on screen at a time with maybe 16 continuous rotary controls for parameter access ... maybe.

I know of an incredible VA synth (Entity) which has 2136 parameters in total. It's in a 1u rack which only has a 20x2 character display, 12 buttons & 4 knobs as a UI

symbiote · Post by **symbiote** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 3:33 am

On 2005-12-21 02:35, Shroomz wrote:
Astro, so you'd consider the Noah a cludged together, hack after hack instrument? On what foundations other than speculation?

Nah, I don't think he meant the instrument itself, he meant the SDK/process to build the devices, and he's probably right. I doubt anyone would argue about the Noah's quality/virtue, and it's really too bad it tanked. But the SDK itself is more than likely a modified Scope/DP with additional stuff to properly format the devices for the Noah, and might not be usable at all by 3rd party developers, like alot of internal-use software is. Development/support of the Noah probably (and sadly) stopped before they managed to wrap up it's SDK in a presentable piece of software for developers.

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 4:16 am

That makes more sense Symbiote & it really is a shame.

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 5:04 am

it really is a shame how you read others' posts. The original quote again - not because it's important, but because what you made of it is stunning

...I assume that there is no specific NOAH SDK at all - what you consider kit is most likely cludged together from it's SFP counterpart and probably one hack after the other...

and please notice that I never wrote 'THERE IS', the wrords are 'assumed', 'most likely' and 'probably'.

cheers, Tom

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 5:07 am

On 2005-12-21 01:25, johnbowen wrote:
...Hey, it's nice to see all the positive words regarding the Quantum Wave...but as an ASB type box?!? Can you imagine the size the front panel would have to be!!??!...

yes John, that's the economic hurdle I had in mind, unfortunately...

cheers, tom

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 5:15 am

Astro,

it really is a shame how you read others' posts. The original quote again - not because I've any intention of continuing this any further on John's thread, but because what you made of it is typically odd

Astro, so you'd consider

... I hope there's understanding now Tom

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 4:17 am

John, we've been wondering why Creamware haven't looked at your amazing new synths such as this & Solaris 4.0 & seen them as significant enough additions to the Platform to be advertised on their website. The thinking behind this (although being mentioned a little late for this device) is that it would be beneficial to both yourself & to Creamware to be announcing & advertising such significant additions to the platform.

There needn't be any money involved as there would if Creamware's shop were involved, as it would just be good publicity for both parties. If it's something you can't discuss publically, I understand, but I just can't figure out why Creamware haven't realised that advertising & promoting the best 3rd party developements would be a great step for them & yourself, Wolf, Spacef & others.

Post by **hubird** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 7:19 am

johnbowen · Post by **johnbowen** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 11:06 pm

On 2006-02-26 04:17, Shroomz wrote:
John, we've been wondering why Creamware haven't looked at your amazing new synths such as this & Solaris 4.0 & seen them as significant enough additions to the Platform to be advertised on their website....

Shroomz,

Yeah, I'm not sure why either, but they did put the Solaris in their 2004 brochure, which was nice, and very much appreciated.

cheers,
John

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 7:03 am

Now that is interesting John

tomylee · Post by **tomylee** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 5:01 am

quantum wave?? Cool, but I guess i´m 2 jears too late, the sound sample links dont work anymore

could someon repost the files?

greets
Tom