Analog Summing with Creamware

[JonnySun]

Hi,

I´m interested in the new Scope Home Package because it will be delivered with ADAT-Plate.

How many outputs do i have with this solution? How many tracks can i send out from pc at the same time?

In order to convert from ADAT to Analog-Format i need ADAT-to-Analog-Converters for the next step.
How would you compare Behringer ADA 8000 with the converters of A 16 Ultra?

[Shayne White]

If you have the Scope Home plus ADAT expansion, then you don't even need to use ADAT -- you could use Z-link (A16 Ultra only, of course). It'd be a lot better!

If don't want to get that, then you'd need another analog-ADAT box...I don't know about converter quality, though. I use the Alesis AI3, and it sounds great to me.

Shayne

[arela]

How many outputs do i have with this solution? How many tracks can i send out from pc at the same time?

With A16: 16 mono tracks + (s/pdif and analog)
Same with ADAT (2 * 8 mono with 2 boxes)

The A16 is 16 * 24bit/96kHz
while the Beringer is max 24 bit 48 kHz

So you need to deceide what samplerate you want to use.

You could of course use z-link and get 1 or 2 Luna 24/96 boxes (8 IN/OUT each), but if you know you want 16 channels, i think A16 is better (don't realy know for shure )

[JonnySun]

The A 16 Ultra delivers 16 In/Out only. So that means it`s only possible to sum 16 Channels at the same time.

Would be glad if the z-link-port would be the third ADAT-one ..

[JonnySun]

The A 16 Ultra delivers 16 In/Out only. So that means it`s only possible to sum 16 Channels at the same time.

Would be glad if the z-link-port would be the third ADAT-one ..

[astroman]

On 2006-02-11 09:36, JonnySun wrote:
...How would you compare Behringer ADA 8000 with the converters of A 16 Ultra?

well, you don't give too much information about the types of source (and their context) you want to process, but the question above is highly suspective...

To make a long story short, imho you're just about to waiste a serious investment.
The DA conversion process not only will outweigh the benefits from analog processing, it's even likely to spoil your sources in comparison to 'regular' Scope mixer summing.

Conversion is not only about chip's quality, but also the analog path and most of all: the clock stability.
The A16U is generally considered 'better' than the Behringer by those who have access to both, but for top results even the A16U REQUIRES a dedicated studio clock (!)

If you think 'budget', do it all within Scope with the A16U.
If you have many analog sources, improve quality by adding a dedicated studio clock and the CWA syncplate.
A 'better' converter for 'important' channels like one of those Apogees (some here are happy with a Minimee for acoustic recordings) might improve thing further.

But without a studio clock and conversion gear in the Apogee (just an example) range your not very likely to experience any improvement at all by 'analog summing'.

Nevertheless I don't own any of the units mentioned above myself, so don't take my words as absolute truth
It's a reasoning of someone about information that has been passed here (and on other pages) what he'd do in that situation.

Currently I'm happy with 2 Pulsar Ones and the old A16 (pre-ultra) because it matches my gear (no sophisticated vocalist or high q acoustic instruments around)
I'm a passionate vinyl collector of analog records, so these things matter to me - but I don't make a religion out of them

cheers, Tom

[JonnySun]

Okay, thanks for all answers

[arela]

Hi again
Maybe i missed your q

The A 16 Ultra delivers 16 In/Out only. So that means it`s only possible to sum 16 Channels at the same time.

You can use both adat,analog, s/pdif and z-link at the same time for a total of 36 IN and 36 OUT

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