asus dualcore and pc freezes

vipal · Post by **vipal** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 1:29 am

hi there,
i have Asus P5LD2 Deluxe motherboard with Intel 945P+ and Intel ICH7R, this dualcore 2,8 GHz with 1 Gb machine is problematic with my Creamware Pulsar2.
Sometimes its works well for two hours or so, sometimes a bit longer. but also sometimes it freezes my Pc every hour. Hard crashes, the only thing i can do then is reset. anyhow i never had a crash that was not a total freeze. i estimate 30 times the last two weeks.

I did what was said in the creamweare manual. removed the pulsar card from pci lock 4, did the VCache story etc.
when i open cubase with scope and leave the system for two hours, when i come back the pc is frozen. Last night i installed another soundcard and left it all night open with cubase and in the morning it was still working well. so i think i know its a problem between my motherboard/processor and scope.

anybody else knows this problem?? and most of all: is there anything i can do about it?

MD69 · Post by **MD69** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 3:37 am

Hi,

Did you disable all power saving feature from XP?

Cheers

Michel

vipal · Post by **vipal** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:03 am

yes thanks about this xp advice. dont know exactly what happened. but everything works fine now. joepie.
i think putting the card from pci-lock4 to the second and turning pulsar off and on in devicemanager did it. but i am not sure about this. still i can live with it. it. so: pulsar2 works (at least today) fine with the configuration mentioned above.

vipal · Post by **vipal** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 11:12 am

well i was to early with my conclusion that things are ok now. when i leave cubase and scope open for one hour without working on it the pc freezes. all xp powermanagement options are disbled. also when dsp load is halfway adding an instrument can result in a freeze (without any warning). its much better then is was before i put my scope card in another lock but still not good.

vipal · Post by **vipal** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 2:10 pm

ok, diggin deeper and deeper. now i found out that when scope is open but cubase not my pc is not freezing. i was looking for some kind of powersaving-like thing in cubase but nope. ok, when i take a break now i just save my work in cubase and close it. but i am still interested to find out whats happening, any idea?

valis · Post by **valis** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 2:16 pm

Go into device manager (right click on My Computer, choose 'manage' and then device manager in the left side of the console).

Expand "Sound Video and game controllers"

Find your card (Creamware Pulsar or Pulsar2 etc), double click or right click & choose properties.

Go to the 'settings' tab at the top of the properties panel.

At the bottom under 'powermanagement' find the 'reset board if idle' setting and make sure its UNCHECKED.

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only a possible solution, no guarantees.

vipal · Post by **vipal** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 2:26 pm

wauw thanks valis i think it helped! it was soooo annoying., great

Shayne White · Post by **Shayne White** » Fri Feb 03, 2006 10:08 pm

I had no end of problems with AMD dualcore, don't know if Intel would work better. I had massive crashing with the 3.1c Scope drivers -- the 3.1b drivers worked better. I'm still having performance problems with ticks and pops -- works just fine with singlecore. All I can say is, if you can remotely get dualcore to work, then good job!!

Shayne

vipal · Post by **vipal** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 2:36 pm

well.. again i was to optimistic about my system. now i still have the problem. few last options to try; checking the poweroptions in my bios, reinstall sfp and reinstall windows. any hint is welcomed.

vipal · Post by **vipal** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 2:41 pm

otherwise maybe someone can advise me: how much i can still get for my 2nd hand (3 months old) pulsar2 6 dsp S&S with flexor and with (almost) upgrade 4.5? in euros? the complete story did cost me around € 1.200,= (aiaiai).

fidox · Post by **fidox** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 12:09 am

well, i don't have dual core, 875chipset, but Asus causes me just problems when using 3 cw cards and cubase, so i moved also to 875chipset, this time Abit, and problems are gone.....

AndreD · Post by **AndreD** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 1:44 am

any midiconnections??

active send from keyboard is knowen to produce that kind of crash...

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Shayne White · Post by **Shayne White** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 8:27 am

If anyone has the 3.1b drivers, could they send it to Vipal? I can't because I'm not at my studio computer today. It fixed dualcore crashing on my system.

Shayne

MD69 · Post by **MD69** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 1:34 pm

Hi Vipal,

PM me your email and I'll send you the 3.1B driver

Cheer
Michel

mrvinyl · Post by **mrvinyl** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 1:25 am

i'VE BEEN GETTING THIS PROBLEM FOR ABOUT A YEAR NOW, AND I'VE TRIED EVERYTHING UNDER THE SUN TO FIX IT, AND IT STILL HANGS IF i LEAVE PC FOR A WHILE, AND ALSO RANDOMLY CRASHES, REBOOTING ITSELF ALOT

IM USING A HYPERTHREAD P4, WHICH I HAVE DISABLE AND ENABLED NEARLY EVERY SETTING POSSIBLE.

I THINK CREAMWARE HAVE THE BEST S/CARD ON THE MARKET, BUT THEY SURE NEED TO INVESTIGATE CONFLICTS WITH OTHER COMPANIES

vipal · Post by **vipal** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 11:48 am

guys thanks for your responses. where i am now? i think its working great now, but i thought this already a few times and it turned out differently. so i am a bit carefull to say again its working perfect now. buut it looks it is.

to mr vinyl (maybe this helps you also) this is what i did (changing something in the bios):
when starting up, press delete, go to poweroptions, disable ACPI 2.0. (dont forget to leave through F10)

and my question to MD69: do you still think i should install this driver you mentioned?
it looks now like its working well.

MD69 · Post by **MD69** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 11:53 am

Hi Vipal,

If it ain't broke ... don't fix it!

Cheers

Michel

vipal · Post by **vipal** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 8:34 am

at the end the problem came back and somehow it turned out the ethernetport on the motherboard is broken.

psionic · Post by **psionic** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 4:39 am

On 2006-02-08 01:25, mrvinyl wrote:
i'VE BEEN GETTING THIS PROBLEM FOR ABOUT A YEAR NOW, AND I'VE TRIED EVERYTHING UNDER THE SUN TO FIX IT, AND IT STILL HANGS IF i LEAVE PC FOR A WHILE, AND ALSO RANDOMLY CRASHES, REBOOTING ITSELF ALOT

IM USING A HYPERTHREAD P4, WHICH I HAVE DISABLE AND ENABLED NEARLY EVERY SETTING POSSIBLE.

I THINK CREAMWARE HAVE THE BEST S/CARD ON THE MARKET, BUT THEY SURE NEED TO INVESTIGATE CONFLICTS WITH OTHER COMPANIES

OK, and now, the FINAL solution for random freezing and crashes !!!

I have been investigating this for months and discovered following:

The problem seems to be IRQ channel greater than 16 or "APIC ACPI Function" - wich means that advanced IRQ steering routine is active. It is the case with all newer motherboards, and no other things like HyperThreading, dual core etc are the problem. Disabling APIC through BIOS will 1000% solve all problems with SCOPE and random freezing, but will disable OS support for HT (even if it remains enabled in BIOS). So, after disabling ACPI APIC function in BIOS, you should reinstall windows and you will get only 16 IRQ channels, and also - working SCOPE. If you have more than 16 IRQs on your computer, it meens that APIC is enabled, and you could expect instabillity from SFP. Some motherboards do not have possibility to disable APIC, so you need to install standard PC, but you will loose a lot of different enchantments of your OS. I do not recommend that. With APIC disabled you will loose only HyperThreading. ( Only?! )

Please CREAMWARE, solve this problem, FIX YOUR DAMN DRIVERS !!!

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Post by **garyb** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 12:10 pm

it's not the drivers.
see the broken motherboard abover that made problems in this thread.