STM 2448 stereo Monitor Aux switching left & right

maakbow · Post by **maakbow** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 2:17 am

Hi

Im now running the STM 2448 i got with the latest 4.5 package. [on luna II]

The stereo aux for monitor is one of the reasons i use this but it seems to switch left and right.
I know L&R are connected the correct way as i have asigned monitor L&R out of the STM to there own Zlink destinations [a16 ultra]and and left signal appears in left side as it should but if i send a signal out one side of a stereo channel and send it through the stereo monitor AUX then when you go to the MS [monitor sen] on the "bus" page of the STM the signal then appears in the opposite side of the stereo monitor aux.
I have checked all my routing and it is correct and nothing is switched.

The MIX, Control room and studio outputs of the STM are the correct.

I cant just swith the sides of my physical monitor amps as this would then be physically switched...as i said..monitor output of the STM is correct..it is some where in between the channel and the auxilially send master that is wrong.

I would post the .pro if i knew how tio attach it to this post.
Can anyone help?

Maak

[ This Message was edited by: maakbow on 2006-01-02 03:33 ]

Post by **garyb** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 9:37 am

dunno. why don't you just switch the cables in the routing window?

maakbow · Post by **maakbow** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 7:26 pm

because you cant

you dont have acces to that part of the routing beween the stereo montitor send and the send master.

If i switch the monitor out routing [of the STM] as I pointed out...then my left headphone becomes the right chanel ...this part is right.
My left headphone is recieving left signal from this point.

its before that that it gets wrong..the left chanel comes out the left side..its just that it gets the monitor send from the right side

katano · Post by **katano** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 6:23 am

hi maakbow

i discovered the same strange feature about 3 years ago, when i started with scope. it was the reason i finally didn't use the monitor aux. i didn't have the patience to figure it out.

I use the control room for my active nearfield monitors, the studio room i.e. for a headphone preamp in the recording room and the master out for mastering down to stereo in cubase sx. works fine for me...

greez
roman

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Post by **garyb** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 9:25 am

yes, that's a workaround if the monitor situation becomes a problem. this has never been an issue here before. if i think about it, i'll check it out. the monitor out is just never used for any kind of high quality monitoring here, just tracking, so no one's really complained....

maakbow · Post by **maakbow** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 4:12 pm

it is my intention to use it for studio [musicians]monitoring when tracking.

The stereo aux nature of this makes it perfect for the job and im sure what creamware intended.

How do you send to musicians headphones easilly without useing it?
I could go back to using 2 mono chanels and 2 separate aux channel panned left and right like when i had a physical hardware mixer and what i use on the 1632 scope mixer....but thats such a drag.

I need to be able to quickly send various signals to various musicians...and change it quickly...and signals can range from 1 mono, 2 mono left and right, to stereo....I need a sereo headphone mix to musicians

This was the main reason i upgraded to 4.5..to get this mixer for this function....and now i find i cant use it!!!!..this sucks

maak

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Post by **garyb** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 5:22 pm

well, i've always used the stereo monitor send. it's possible that it's always been as you describe, no one's complained before. i did some experiments and yes, left and right are backwards out the mon send, but so what? i still don't see a problem with switching them. i couldn't find any other strange behavior.

i think i must be misunderstanding what you are tying to accomplish. i usually use a 2 track send from the sequencer to a channel which sends out the monitor send and allows me to monitor out the control room out, pretty straight forward, basic and boring.....

maakbow · Post by **maakbow** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 11:00 pm

Im sure life won't end because of it..and yes i have switched the monitor outputs of the mixer.... but because of this i know at some point in the future ill have to kill one side of the cans cause some singer is holding them to only one ear or some such thing and ill be confused as hell and annoy the singer but dropping the signal from the wrong side.

If they had got the whole thing switched it would be a no brainer...but the fact that the outputs are correctly wired in the STM and the mon send wrong and that no amount of cable switching will enable me to get a correct signal flow bothers me.

If this was a physical device i had brought i would definitely be able to send it back and get it fixed...or i would pull out the multi metre and the soldering iron.
maak

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Post by **garyb** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 11:13 pm

yep, i hear you...

katano · Post by **katano** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 4:18 am

got an idea: maybe the left-right switch of the monitor aux isn't a software fault. it may could be done for the drummers headphones? because he sits behind his drum and obviously likes to hear the left overhead (from engineers view) on his right ear...

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maakbow · Post by **maakbow** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 4:57 am

got an idea: maybe the left-right switch of the monitor aux isn't a software fault. it may could be done for the drummers headphones? because he sits behind his drum and obviously likes to hear the left overhead (from engineers view)

hahahahahahahaha

katano · Post by **katano** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 8:01 am