100€ - Buy Modular III or buy Adern Flexor?

Koloh · Post by **Koloh** » Tue Dec 27, 2005 1:39 am

I'm using the Modular II. In the next time I want to invest 100€.

Will I have more fun with the Modular III or with the Flexor?

Or Are there even other applications for my Modular which are the better choice?

Lima · Post by **Lima** » Tue Dec 27, 2005 2:21 am

Very difficult to say: maybe Flexor, because it has a lot of fantastic things, like granular processing and a lot of incredible shaping modules.
Mod 3 has more basic modules wich can be very very useful to make a smart use of the flexor one...

If I've got only 100 euro maybe I would invest them in the flexor, but the real deal IMHO is to add all the two plugins.

Koloh · Post by **Koloh** » Tue Dec 27, 2005 2:49 am

Is there possiblility to here Sound examples? At Creamware.com I didn't find something.

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Tue Dec 27, 2005 4:01 am

it depends on which structure and detail level you prefer to work.
The Mod3 has certain modules that are a 'must have' if you setup complex things like (complete) synth engines etc.
If you're working more on the detail level then Flexor is more rewarding, as it DOES sound different than your Mod2 and will add lots of new sounds.
Mod3 is more about improved and enhanced control, imho it 'sounds' identical to it's predecessor - yet there are (a lot of) things you simply cannot do with Mod2.

Due to lack of time I've never been able to scratch anything but the surface of Mod3, but I've always had a lot of fun to tweak those incredible 'example patches' that come with Flexor.

you can safely buy it - the sound is exactly what people describe as 'analog' and 'expensive', honestly.
Don't let the price fool you - as a Protools TDM device it would cost 10 times as much ...if it were available at all...

cheers, Tom

valis · Post by **valis** » Tue Dec 27, 2005 1:20 pm

Flexor audio samples:
http://adern.com/home/modules.php?name= ... view&id=10

Michu · Post by **Michu** » Tue Dec 27, 2005 4:59 pm

heh, mod3 is really about added modules, some of them crucial like inverter or rectifier (it was pain in mod2 to assemble those from a number of modules), and some more advanced like a vocoder components. Most users tend to use old mod2 shell, because new mod3 shell seems to be quite buggy.
A list of mod3 specific modules on Ben Walker's excelent site.

Flexor gives you excelent filters different to Creamware's (IMHO they make circles around most of the stock stuff), excelent unusual shapers and granular stuff, and more
List of Flexor modules

Myself,(having both) i'd prefer to have mod2+flexor over bare mod3, but that is just my taste for extreme sounds, plus once i've tried flexor filters i hardly go back to stock ones. Please keep in mind tho, that comparing with stock modules, flexor stuff is more dsp intensive.
If you are serious about modular programming and creating patches, then eventually you will feel the must to have both anyway

Koloh · Post by **Koloh** » Tue Dec 27, 2005 7:33 pm

OK, it will be the Flexor, I heart the sound examples and read your replies and thought: Flexor rulez.
I like extreme sounds to, and the examples I heard seemed to be living.

But in a future, which does't have to wait very long, I will purchase the Mod 3, too. Since I heart th Modular the first time I love it and now I want to have all its stuff. Probably the other synths I wanted to buy have to wait, I even prefer the Modular now to the hardware synths I wanted to buy.

Thanks for your quick answers!

peace koloh

Mr Arkadin · Post by **Mr Arkadin** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 6:41 am

As an aside don't all the example Adern patches (and 99% of the user patches) require ModIII anyway/ Just thought i'd mention it as it would mean you'd have to create all your own patches from scratch (i tend to just nick the one's that are already posted).

Michu · Post by **Michu** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:11 pm

as my memory serves me (i have m3 for quite a time), most patches are mod2 compatibile

ChampionSound · Post by **ChampionSound** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 3:35 pm

I'd definately go for Flexor! I'm actually most interested in the granular processing modules of flexor. Too bad Adern's Grainmiller never has been released, otherwise I'd definately go for that one...

Oh well, with Flexor one can get the whole package and then some!

So Flexor it is... (within a couple of months I hope)

flips · Post by **flips** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 2:18 pm

On 2005-12-27 01:39, Koloh wrote:
I'm using the Modular II. In the next time I want to invest 100€.

Will I have more fun with the Modular III or with the Flexor?

Or Are there even other applications for my Modular which are the better choice?

I don't know what card you have, but upgrading to Scope 4.5 is still a hundre euros, isn't it. And when I did, I got Pro-12, B-2003, Poison and more. And I think maybe you get Modular III as well. Maybe that's the best option? I don't know. Haven't bought Flexor yet.

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flips · Post by **flips** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 7:36 pm

On 2006-03-03 11:40, stardust wrote:
As we said in another thread.
Flexor extends the Modular concept, soundwise and functionwise.

Its not just another emu of a vintage synth.

Yes, that much I understood. But if you want to spend 100 euros and consider buying Modular III, why not use 100 euros on Scope 4.5 and get more stuff ... that was my only point. I'll probably get Flexor soon enough myself, but I'm still to new to modular synthesis, so I'll wait a little bit ...

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