MIDI Channel output Cycler

paulrmartin · Post by **paulrmartin** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:43 am

This module would have one MIDI input and a selectable number of outputs, up to 16, not unlike ASIO modules.
Each new MIDI note is cycled through the number of selected channels.
Example:
5 outputs are selected.
If a solo line is played each new note will cycle to the next channel and back to channel 1( 1,2,3,4,5,1,2.....)
If, say, a 3-note chord is played repeatedly, the notes will be split up and cycled though the channels thus:
1,2,3
2,3,4
3,4,5
4,5,1
5,1,2 and so on
On the panel of the module, we can have selectable MIDI channels for the outputs.
Transposition(this is important) and delay(if possible) parameters would be displayed for each channel.

You can refer to the Yamaha TX-81Z performance patches for an example of what this could do.
I used this "effect" a lot when I had the TX-81Z.
I like to use such randomisers

I know this type of module is possible to make. Or is something out there that I missed?

Cheers
Paul

Post by **hubird** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 3:39 pm

paulrmartin · Post by **paulrmartin** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 4:01 pm

Is that a yes or a no, Huub?

Post by **hubird** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 4:38 pm

both, as I think it's a nice idea, but i can't help you

I thought, if you take 5 channels, and put five notes in a time setting that deviates from the song's one, then you get an interesting always-changing pattern.
Combined with some modulation on one or more synths you get a living thing

It will help to keep the sequencer's arrangment clean if you try stuff like this

paulrmartin · Post by **paulrmartin** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 6:00 pm

Yeah! Can you imagine a chord being broken down, one note to Prisma, another to Vectron and another to Minimax? The possibilities are endless!

Casper · Post by **Casper** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 6:42 am

Well, there is a midichannelchanger module in the SDK , together with an event counter it will do the trick I think,

Good luck.

paulrmartin · Post by **paulrmartin** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 7:46 am

Does anybody with SDK have the time to create this module?

I don't have 15 DSP's so SDK is out for me...

Casper · Post by **Casper** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:00 am

Well, I was trying.. But no promisses.

So far only manual changing the channel.
But then it would be to hard to split a chord. The counter is counting a little weird. But I'll keep trying ,for today that is. (darn that there is no normal midi messagebuilder in SDK)

Cheers

paulrmartin · Post by **paulrmartin** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:04 am

Cheers to you, Casper

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:53 am

On 2005-07-28 09:00, Casper wrote:
...(darn that there is no normal midi messagebuilder in SDK)

exactly, you name it...

it would be easier to program the midi stuff with any traditional language (midi is bits shifting and masking anyway) and link it externally, but then how's to keep timing aligned ???

cheers, tom

Casper · Post by **Casper** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 12:47 pm

...Back to the drawing bord

paulrmartin · Post by **paulrmartin** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 12:56 pm

Gee, I wish I could help...

at0m · Post by **at0m** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 1:22 pm

On 2005-07-28 09:53, astroman wrote:
but then how's to keep timing aligned ???

Here's some logic on how they deceided on note priorities etc, could help on the timing:
http://www.cim.mcgill.ca/%7Eclark/nordm ... peggiation

paulrmartin · Post by **paulrmartin** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 1:36 pm

That's interesting but if we have 3 outputs selected and 3-note chords played, the separate notes would always go to the same outputs unless there is a function to change their priority.

Casper · Post by **Casper** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 2:25 pm

Well, an attempt that sort of works.
Only there are these differences in midiimplementation like Roland vs Cubase.

To be short , it still has bugs.
But I think this is the idea.
Reset only when sequencer stopped.

download at
http://www2.hku.nl/~casper0/

cheers

Casper · Post by **Casper** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 2:29 pm

For now , I must create some music...
All this searching for the right stuff takes up ours.

Casper · Post by **Casper** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 2:48 pm

Oh , and sorry but chords arn't doing great so far..

paulrmartin · Post by **paulrmartin** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 1:28 pm

Nothing there to try, Casper. Just a screen shot

Casper · Post by **Casper** » Mon Aug 01, 2005 1:53 am

mm, thats odd.
It's working over here. (it's a flash page)

But here is the exact link.

http://student-kmt.hku.nl/~casper0/CreamwareDevices/

Don't expect too much of it.
It still has hanging notes. And sometimes it is nessesary to disconnect the synths and reconnect to get rid of the hanging notes.

paulrmartin · Post by **paulrmartin** » Mon Aug 01, 2005 3:21 am

Cool!

I did not know I had to click in "Centrox Devices". The page does work.

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