sysex ( patches dump) please help me

lore · Post by **lore** » Wed Sep 25, 2002 10:43 pm

Hi everybody,
i have problems dumping patches from vst to novation nova : i can record all nova patches via system exclusive into vst,(a midi part containing sysex appears in vst) but when i try to send them back to the nova in order to check if everything is ok it doesn't work ,nova should display something like " receiving...." but it doesn't.
midi in/out are correctly connected , i'm a midi expert indeed , i checked novation website and i followed exactly the procedure described into the f.a.q. i was wondering if somebody had same problems , also with other synths .
i have a mac g3 450 mhz and a pulsar 2 sfp 3.1c,oms 2.3.7. (works as shit as oms 2.3.8 !)
thanks
lore

at0m · Post by **at0m** » Wed Sep 25, 2002 11:45 pm

If it's automated SYSEX tx/rcv (you know, tx/rcv commands included in sysex msg) try doing a manual dump.

Make sure Cubase is not filtering sysex, and that it can record sysex. Then record a track on Cubase, while you manually dump from your machine. Cubase should have recorded one sysex string on the track. Make sure you set adequete recording lenght on the track, for the dump to finish properly.

Then, manually set your machine to receive sysex. Play the track in Cubase. It sends the sysex string back to your machine. Or at least, it should.

This is an alternative way of doing the tx/rcv, you could check with this one...

lore · Post by **lore** » Fri Sep 27, 2002 8:46 pm

hi atomic,
unfortunately it didn't work and the nova should receive dumps while in any mode , as stated in the manual, so i'll try to use my old atari to check if the problem is with the synth or pulsar

thanks anyway

lore · Post by **lore** » Thu Oct 17, 2002 5:57 pm

The problem relies in pulsar , i've used a midisport usb 2*2 and the dump worked perfectly in both directions !!!!!
why ?!?!?!

krizrox · Post by **krizrox** » Thu Oct 17, 2002 6:04 pm

There is something wrong with MIDI sysex in Pulsar/Luna. Do a search here - others have reported the same problem. There is a patch to correct it. Either that or try a MidiMan.

synthetic · Post by **synthetic** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 11:09 pm

Hi, I've problem with dumping sysex out from VST to my Korg Z1. It shows receiving, starting and stop at 2%...I took the same sysex file, loaded into my Atari and it worked great!
Where can I find this patch?

Edit:
I have Pulsar2 + SRB

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paulrmartin · Post by **paulrmartin** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 4:18 am

Why not make a SYSEX track with the information you want to transfer in your sequencer of choice and play it back slowly?

synthetic · Post by **synthetic** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:38 am

I have tried to slow down the seq to 10bpm, still the same problem, crappy Pulsar...

synthetic · Post by **synthetic** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 3:47 am

I mailed CW about this and got the answer that it should work with CW-system and that it must be wrong in SX or my Z1, wierd!!!

synthetic · Post by **synthetic** » Tue Jul 05, 2005 11:27 pm

Still have sysex problem, read something about not using emulated midi-ports...how do I change that? In SFP I connect my Pulsar-MIDI-IN to a SEQ-MIDI-IN and SEQ-MIDI-OUT to my Pulsar-MIDI-OUT, this SEQ-MIDI is SW-emulated ports I think, but how do I get MIDI out from my seq without using these?
In SX i only see CW-Emulated-MIDI-Ports...

Sending single sysex-patch works but not whole bank. I have enabled sysex in seq, slowed down tempo to 10bpm and still it hangs and the Z1 not receiving anything.
I copied thsese sysex-file to my old Atari, loaded cubase and send it to Z1 with success!!!
I need a working midi now!!

analyst · Post by **analyst** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 7:47 pm

i have the same problem...

i'm using pulsar ver 1.01 with sfp 4 on a PC system.

i cant send somthing to the Nova, Virus KC, or to the Nord lead 3 while i'm using "Cubase SX 2" but when i'm using SX 3 it's somtimes sending but also with problems ( somtimes it's send only 10-15 sounds or not sending at all ).

i didnt tryied yet the other synths.

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at0m · Post by **at0m** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 1:22 pm

Would this sysex problem be the reason why many sysex tools, for example Pete Kvitek's Pc1600x editor or the 505 patch editor I had, have MIDI buffer size and delay settings? Setting larger input buffer size and send delays often solved the problem of some MIDI data getting lost along the way. Unfortunately SX doesn't offer this option.

Post by **garyb** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 5:37 pm

synthetic · Post by **synthetic** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 3:53 am

Yes!
I first noticed that using my Korg Z1 Editor.