News from Creamware - Status of the Company and Scope

huffcw · Post by **huffcw** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 6:32 am

Hello,

yes, we have allready sold many ASB boxes.

These boxes are built with the latest 200 Mhz Sharc´s which are provoding ultimative DSP calculating power.

We allready managed to compilate our SCOPE software for these brandnew DSPs, so I can tell you allready that new SCOPE hardware with the latest and fastest Sharc DSPs will be available in future.

Sorry, I can´t give release date by now.

mit freundlichen Grüßen / best regards

CreamWare Service Team
info@creamware.de

next to nothing · Post by **next to nothing** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 7:12 am

wow!!!

voidar · Post by **voidar** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 7:48 am

Cool. I hope we'll be able to exchange our old cards for the new ones for a given price when these are out.

jabney · Post by **jabney** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 9:40 am

hi Voidar,

You said, "I hope we'll be able to exchange our old cards for the new ones for a given price when these are out."

As long as I can use all - or even the vast majority - of my existing devices on the new hardware, I'll be OK.

An official CreamWare trade-in program would be nice, but doesn't having access to ebay constitute a trade-in program these days?

best,

John

Shayne White · Post by **Shayne White** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 10:17 am

OHMYGODOHMYGODOHMYGOD!!!!

darkrezin · Post by **darkrezin** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 10:30 am

I'm bracing myself for all the threads with subjects like:

'Why aren't the new cards out yet?! I demand my new toys right this minute!'

Seriously though, good news and let's hope CW sales don't die completely as people anticipate the new stuff.

huffcw · Post by **huffcw** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 11:04 am

No release date means it may be a ways down the road still before new cards will actually happen. This is really just a confirmation that they are working in that direction - and the company is in a healthy state at the moment. The fact that the new boxes are selling well is very good news.

Music Manic · Post by **Music Manic** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 12:09 pm

Excellent news!

blazesboylan · Post by **blazesboylan** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 12:10 pm

*wipes drool off chin*

Shayne White · Post by **Shayne White** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 1:53 pm

Yes, I know exactly why they're doing well. Picking up a 6-voice, MIDI-compatible "MiniMoog" for $800-900 is an awesome deal. Compare MiniMoog Voyager for 1 voice at over $2k. Yes, the analog version will sound *slightly* better, but not enough to matter in the real world.

Noah was just too expensive for a rack box with only a couple of knobs that you had to plug into a computer to actually use. Nice idea, but dumb. The ASB boxes are much better; far more marketable. There's no reason they shouldn't sell a ton of them.

darkrezin · Post by **darkrezin** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 3:04 pm

Yep... as always happens with hardware synths, the price starts to come down a bit as more retailers compete with each other. I think it will be tempting a lot of people (reaction to these boxes was very good on pretty much all forums I watch).

There's enough people buying mediocre stuff like Korg MS2000 etc to make something like the ASB boxes pretty enticing, considering they sound a whole lot better and in many ways are probably a lot more easy to use:

- no menus
- knobs for virtually all functions

This stuff means a lot to people who like live, hands-on instruments!

(I'm hoping in the future there might be versions with more outs and multi-timbral operation... that really would be killer)

Billy goat gruff · Post by **Billy goat gruff** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 4:31 pm

Forgive my dumbass but how many Mhz are the present DSP's again?

wayne · Post by **wayne** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 5:06 pm

ChampionSound · Post by **ChampionSound** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 1:00 am

Wow! Absolutely great!
I hope the new cards will be compatible with the current cards in SFP as well.

And wouldn't it be cool if the new cards have memory slots as well to install optional memory? It might be cool for future samplers in SFP to avoid the phase issue of the current STS series if the card has its own memory. I dont know if I'm talking rubbish here, mayby it isn't technically possible at all

But the 3.3 times faster DSP's are a great leap forward anyway! Good job Creamware!

Lima · Post by **Lima** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 1:01 am

[200 Mhz]
Good news, indeed!

AndreD · Post by **AndreD** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 2:32 am

On 2005-07-12 02:00, ChampionSound wrote:
Wow! Absolutely great!
I hope the new cards will be compatible with the current cards in SFP as well.

sorry but there will be no new scope "card" in near future!

[ This Message was edited by: AndreD on 2005-08-16 00:46 ]

ChampionSound · Post by **ChampionSound** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 2:52 am

Don't need to say sorry Andre

If the new hardware will be built in an external box or so, then that's ok with me. I just couldn't make up out of this story that the new hardware won't be a card anymore. But a Scope Box with USB or firewire connection means even more flexibility!

AndreD · Post by **AndreD** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 2:58 am

for the moment, it is´nt even shure what kind of connection, so stay cool and make music!
whatever there will come, it WILL NOT _replace_ your pci-cards in near future

[ This Message was edited by: AndreD on 2005-07-13 00:38 ]

ChampionSound · Post by **ChampionSound** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:01 am

Yup I agree

That's what people should keep doing anyway, keep on making music. Instead of "complaining" about upgrades all the time

Grok · Post by **Grok** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 7:49 am

On 2005-07-12 03:52, ChampionSound wrote:
(...)
But a Scope Box with USB or firewire connection means even more flexibility!

Firewire yes, USB no...
Too much softwares protection dongles on USB ports, too much realtime issues... Firewire is better suited for realtime (and the video guys have already tested it...)

If CW could solve these topics:
- the ability to "freeze" Scope synths & plugins
- enough onboard RAM to not use the PC's RAM for FX processing (especially for huges reverbs)
- the ability to use Scala's microtuning files and Just Intonation for every Scope Synths
- attractive power/price ratio compared to native stuffs

...then a new Scope hardware with these qualities and the qualities of the current cards could have its chances

[ This Message was edited by: Grok on 2005-07-12 08:59 ]