i guess nobody saw this yet?

wavelength · Post by **wavelength** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 12:59 am

http://www.johnbowen.com/pictures/view. ... res&UID=39

suthnear · Post by **suthnear** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 1:42 am

Solaris lite? Or Eclipse, perhaps

at0m · Post by **at0m** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 2:09 am

Looks like the 108

http://www.johnbowen.com/pictures/index.nhtml

sonicstrav · Post by **sonicstrav** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 8:24 pm

Might be a beta Solaris lite. John said (I think) he scrapped the idea.

johnbowen · Post by **johnbowen** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 7:42 pm

Hmmmm, no, not a Solaris Lite....but that does tell me something about the potential confusion of using the same/similar knobs and graphics for a new product!

Actually, this is a shot of a custom device I'm building. Anyone care to guess again? (On closer scrutiny, you should be able to identify from which synth this is modeled...)

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zarg music

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Post by **hubird** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 8:25 pm

On 2005-03-13 19:42, johnbowen wrote:
there's no more room to upload anything!
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zarg music

yet a lite version then?

decimator · Post by **decimator** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 6:30 am

I downloaded the pic before it's gone !

Since there are lot of wavetables ( and RD slots ) + 8 instruments ...
*Hit buzzer* PPG 2.3 ?
I'am not expert in hardware though ...

Love the GUI, has kind of a Solaris look and the same nice knobs so I like it !

Man-Machine · Post by **Man-Machine** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 11:09 am

This is good news if it's a PPG type of emulation. Waldorf's VSTi was about 80% there. The filters were a little too smooth I think...

decimator · Post by **decimator** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 1:12 pm

Ok, here's the screenshot in the meantime ...

next to nothing · Post by **next to nothing** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 2:01 pm

its a Scope Virus!

deejaysly · Post by **deejaysly** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 6:31 pm

I don't think it would be possible to make a "Lite" version of Solaris anywayz - the thing is manic....

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johnbowen · Post by **johnbowen** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 3:08 pm

OK, so, is that all the guesses I'm going to get?

This is modeled on the Waldorf WAVE...but I don't know if I will be selling it 'as is' or what, as it is a custom job at the moment.

re: Solaris Lite - well, there is still an idea in the works...but maybe not on this platform!

cheers,
john bowen
zarg music

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astroman · Post by **astroman** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 6:52 pm

do you really want to make the OASIS the real one-and-only-absolute-UBERSYNTH ?

cheers, Tom

Man-Machine · Post by **Man-Machine** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 7:03 pm

Waldorf Wave, huh?! Cool! Are you also going to implement the Waldorf GUI?

Now that Waldorf is gone, I wonder what the legal implications are on Wave emulations...

johnbowen · Post by **johnbowen** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 8:09 pm

re: emulating Waldorf GUI - no, I've thought about it, but it's not very practical, as I've found going through this design. If you look at the screen shot, you'll see that actually, things are layed out in the same general way as the Wave, except I decided to put all of the mod sources/paths right next to their associated areas, instead of everything gathered in the main Performance screen area, as the Wave would do. I don't want to have an exact emulation of the GUI for a number of reasons, one of them being it's not really possible at this time to emulate the Wave exactly...for example, there's mod sources called 'More Keys', Less Keys', and 'Playspeed'. There's nothing in the Scope DSP library that will calculate those things at the moment, and I think some major custom coding would need to be done to get these functions. There's a number of situations like this....

john b.

P.S. Tom, not talking about the OASYS there, sorry...

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next to nothing · Post by **next to nothing** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 9:10 pm

a VSTi solaris lite!

johnbowen · Post by **johnbowen** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 12:27 pm

On 2005-03-14 11:09, Man-Machine wrote:
This is good news if it's a PPG type of emulation. Waldorf's VSTi was about 80% there. The filters were a little too smooth I think...

Does this mean you want the heavily zippered envelopes and pitch modulation? When I sat with the Wave and went through things, I was surprised at how much of this there was, especially for such an expensive instrument.
I did have this function built in, but my client didn't want the zippering to be emulated. (Of course, you can always have it on a switch, etc.)

Check this info from the Website
http://www.unofficial.waldorf-wave.de/
<hr>
Speed
In order to measure the voice update speed I played a rectangular wave without any modulation through the fully opened filter. The VCA envelope was set to:

* Attack 64
* Decay 127
* Sustain 127
* Release 0
* Modulation of the VCA envelope attacks by the VCA envelope. Value +64

stepped WAVE update
<img src="http://www.unofficial.waldorf-wave.de/pics/waveupd.gif">
Take your pocket calculator and calculate with me:
Length of the 9 easy to spot volume graduations (last one at 187 msec minus the first one at 20 msec = 167 msec) divided by 9 gradations = 0,01878 updates per second , about 53 Hz.

This is not high tech, but you wont notice this on this example. But you will notice this on all pitch modulations such as envelope pitchbend and long glide.

Zippernoise

<hr>

cheers,
john b

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symbiote · Post by **symbiote** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 1:16 pm

On 2005-03-17 12:27, johnbowen wrote:

Take your pocket calculator and calculate with me:
Length of the 9 easy to spot volume graduations (last one at 187 msec minus the first one at 20 msec = 167 msec) divided by 9 gradations = 0,01878 updates per second , about 53 Hz.

Actually, that's 0,01878 seconds per update, 53 updates per second =P

Immanuel · Post by **Immanuel** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 6:44 am

Re: Tom

I am not into Synths, but considdering who was in the building team (John Cooper) Oasys is really one synth which I think it would be very bad to "scope-copy". I think that if bad karma exists, this would really be a way to get it.

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 9:56 am

Immanuel, my 'statement' was more or less intended to rule out the option...

but I haven't been that far away, as a look at http://www.zargmusic.com/oasyspci/ will reveal.
Honestly, I never peeked at John's OASYS pages before

cheers, Tom

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