Creamware B-2003

nprime · Post by **nprime** » Sat Feb 12, 2005 10:01 pm

Anyone used this instrument yet?

I really need a good B3 emulation, so I am also looking at NI's version.

Any comments appreciated either way.

R

Post by **garyb** » Sat Feb 12, 2005 10:02 pm

it's really great.

nprime · Post by **nprime** » Sat Feb 12, 2005 10:10 pm

Hey! Good to hear from you.

Thanks for the feedback. I just wish I would have bought it when I had my 50% off opportunity...damn!

R

Post by **garyb** » Sat Feb 12, 2005 10:24 pm

uhhh, i think you still have the 50% opportunity.....

nprime · Post by **nprime** » Sat Feb 12, 2005 11:53 pm

How do you figure?

when I first registered the card I was allowed to go into the shop and there was a big banner saying 50% off activated. when I go there now I don't see that.

What am I missing here?

R

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Sun Feb 13, 2005 12:12 am

on the CWA pages click 'activate Scope 4' again and enter the code you received by email.
It will then start the 50% mode again (for one item) - repeat as often as you like (for the next items) ...

B2003 here as a great guitar FX, slight distortion, chorus vibrato or Leslie (!) via external input of the device (wish I could reduce poly for that app) then handed over to Celmo's latest TapeEchoSimulator, with or without Interpole.

cheers, Tom

nprime · Post by **nprime** » Sun Feb 13, 2005 12:36 am

Thank you.

R

Liquid Len · Post by **Liquid Len** » Sun Feb 13, 2005 3:08 am

On 2005-02-12 22:01, nprime wrote:
Anyone used this instrument yet?

I really need a good B3 emulation, so I am also looking at NI's version.

Any comments appreciated either way.

R

I have both. With the NI version, you can get different tonewheels besides hammond, the farfisa, continental, and harmonium. But the B2003 is a much better hammond emulation. I thought the NI was very close - but the B2003 is closer to a real hammond - it has a truer sound, it's not so much cleaner as grittier and sharper. The NI plugin has a smoother sound, doesn't cut as well in a mix. Also, the B2003 has much reduced latency - playing it is a similar experience to the Minimax - it makes you realize how bad a lot of VSTis are.

valis · Post by **valis** » Sun Feb 13, 2005 5:41 am

Also dsp usage isn't as tied to polyphony with B2003 as it is in other devices...they seem to be doing some tricks using the host machine.

R.D. Olivaw · Post by **R.D. Olivaw** » Sun Feb 13, 2005 8:14 am

On 2005-02-13 05:41, valis wrote:
Also dsp usage isn't as tied to polyphony with B2003 as it is in other devices...they seem to be doing some tricks using the host machine.

i don't think so, because b2003's polyphony is always at 98 notes in the noah too. no host no trick.

Kymeia · Post by **Kymeia** » Sun Feb 13, 2005 8:22 am

I have the B2003 and it's miles better than the NI one - much gutsier and feels more like playing a real instrument. The only one that I also like is the Logic instrument, EVB3 which is also better than NI's and I still like to play as much as the Scope one - it has some beautiful sounds, not as gutsy and authentic perhaps but in some ways more flexible and nuanced.

wayne · Post by **wayne** » Mon Feb 14, 2005 9:59 am

Yep, very usable axe

valis · Post by **valis** » Mon Feb 14, 2005 11:40 am

On 2005-02-13 08:14, r_Daneel Olivaw wrote:
i don't think so, because b2003's polyphony is always at 98 notes in the noah too. no host no trick.

The dsp usage seems rather light for 98 voices compared to every other SFP device doesn't it? This is what I mean by doing some 'trick's using the host system, aka the 'computer' to which the Scope card is plugged in.

In this thread:
http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic ... 0&forum=10

CWFrank states that its mostly due to the 'different model' that they're using (rather than subtractive synthesis) but 2 dsps for 91 poly still seems rather efficient for the number of harmonics that tonewheels have. Others guessed the same thing I'm saying but short of a direct answer from Creamware who knows...