An-Osc synth for Scope

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Now released (70 euros).
Download demo : http://www.spacef.com/DEMOPAGE.htm
MP3s : http://www.spacef.com/mp3/mp3.htm

ONLINE MANUAL

Please note : demos do not include Midi CC or program changes.

Register : http://www.spacef.com/ and "Register" Menu.

see you !
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dsp use shown for a preset with 3 oscillator and a satellite filter. please note that some oscillators are even bigger than the synth itself, therefore, dsp usage may vary a lot.
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What versions of CW software does it support? Does it support older Luna software (I think 2.6 or so)?
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well it is made for sfp 3.1 or scope 4 .
I do not know luna 2.6. I suppose it will crash and burn anything under 3.0.
you know with the preset button. i use the standard one of 3.1 and 4. look at your effects to see if they have the same. if not, well, why not upgrade ??
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super-cool animated gif for DSP use!
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i've made another one for the synth... (also shows some new osc/filter rack)
(i have done a lot of anim in the past, but not animated gifs, long long time ago :smile: ...)


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:cool: - like the envelope representation, too.
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AN OSC is released and a demo is available for download here : http://www.spacef.com/DEMOPAGE.htm

Check the AN-Osc mp3 demos:
http://www.spacef.com/mp3/mp3.htm
they show well the possibilties of the synth for trance and electro pop. (ps : the trance track is an old track of mine under re-construction for a 1 hour "special mehdi touzani" (that's me :wink: ) radio show in Germany on march 20 (or april 27). I hope you'll be there (i think i will re-annouce this).

The demo is only a "preset player" - you do not have access to many controls (see the read me for the list of useable controls).
It includes around 60 presets (taken from the factory banks) + sub-preset lists allowing you to make new sounds by loading oscillators and filters of different presets.

A few of oscillators and filters are included in the Demo package (which is 10 mb). The full AN insdtall, with all osc and filters is around 30/40 MB.

A manual is under construction here : http://www.spacef.com/phpbb2/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?p=93.

Many thanks to Laurent Arrault (maomusique.com) and Arno/Polaris - check his psytrance LP on neurobiotic records.
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Post by Ganool »

Deeply impressed... just downloading it. If it's as good as the mp3:s then it's a definate buy.
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Hi Ganool and thanks !

Laurent's track is recorded straight out of the synth (no extra effects, except the one he may have loaded in the synth itself).

Myself I also did a little bit of eq in the synth itself and also a little bit in cubase (not too much, i've just began reworking that track). Also, you should get the Echo34 demo too (sometimes it is Echo which gives to a preset a little extra). One of the preset uses Echo 34 (the "melodic" short sound with delay uses echo 34 : this preset is also in the an-osc demo).

In both tracks, there is no additional compressor/preamp or anything special.
The way things are played probably counts too.

PS :
*** My track intrument listning :
tablas : ensoniq indian percussions
Drums (open charleys) : ensoniq TR808
Kick : Adern's kick me
all the rest : an-osc synth : the trance sequences are made with the "trance glitter" presets, the bass with one of the "microscope bass" and one "Square Bass" (not demoed yet), and the echoed melodic gimick with one of the "uknow clash" presets. There is a modulated perscussion in the track (but i confess i don't remember what preset it is : it is one of the noise percs or FM preset, but i don't think it is in the demo package).
Anyway, i'll upload another set of demo presets soon.

*** Laurent track instrument listning :
- drums : edirol super-quartet
- all the rest : an-osc synth. (7 of them, "live").
- I know laurent loves to put masterverb inside synths fx slots :eek:

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Laurent just sent me a different mix (volumes have been modified). sounds different than the one above (clearer)
http://www.maomusique.com/temp/AnDemoLa2.mp3
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almost off topic, and probably said before, I'd like to say the mp3 presentation on your site is great :smile:
Nice and informative, tho with a personnal note :smile:

May be there's an accent on thinner sounds, one could say 'tingle-tangle', but that sounds too negative, bellish is better I guess.

To name one track I find great, is An-Osc synth Demo1 Out There extract :smile:
cheers.

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Yesterday I played with it and... well, I fell instantly in love with it. This is a _damn_ fine synth and I'm definately going to buy it (or maybe Synthetic).

After playing with it I was baffled to realize why I don't own any SpaceF-stuff. But it didn't take me more than a couple of minutes on your site to understand why.

I have no clue whats going on.

What is Black Box? Is it a synth? Effect? What's the difference between Syntetic and AN-Osc? Does _all_ your satellites come with AN-Osc, or is it just a few?

Sorry if I'm being a bit negative here. I feel AN-Osc is nearly as cool as Solaris (which is the king of kings) and I'd love to try it with my music. But as soon as I enter your site I just get bloody confused...

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mmm. Carl, I think you are right. Now I have the time to do it and i will take care of this (making everything clearer). Funny enough, this time I am having a very hard time making the website (i've been probably too much in Scope lately). (nb : yes it ships with all filter and ocscillators).

In any case, I will change things a bit, to make it clearer (but sometimes, when i read my english, i don't understand myself hehe). I will take care of it this week.
Thank you to remind it to me.

Thank you Hubird :smile: , I must finish this track for the end of the month, for a radio show that will be streamable from the web (and probably for permanent download after the show). I'll keep people informed (and will probably post fatter mp3s in a while (for the site mp3 page).

Mehdi

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Post by Ganool »

Great & thanks for the answer... but what's the difference between Synthetic DX and AN-Osc? Is Synthetic DX capable of using satellites...? One thing I missed in AN-Osc is a free routable modulator envelope and ability to sync oscillators. Is that possible with Synthetic DX?
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As a Black Box owner let me try and help (though i'm not sure about everything i've got yet either :lol:). Here are the main devices included in Black Box:

Synthetic DX is the big synth with 3 oscillators and lots of filter/modulation options.you can replace the standard oscillators with Space F's custom Oscillator Satellites (modules). It sounds very different from the free Synthetic3 and 5.1, but if you already have them (i don't think they are available for download anymore) you get an idea of the architecture, which is very similar, although remember Synthetic DX has far more features and a very different sound.

Bonus synths Synthetic R7, Synthetic 5.1, Ulysse and Oceanic are lighter versions of Synthetic DX, feature-wise i don't know the difference between them, but they are different. The other bonus synth is AN-Osc which you've seen and is a very nice and light little beast.

LBH (Little Big Harp) is like a synth/sequencer/arpeggiator in one. You hit one note and you get a mini-sequence, where you define the notes. The difference is that each note can have a different Oscillator Satellite, so you can get some completely unique sequencer/arpeggiator sounds (8 step). The different models have different features - i don't know them well enough to describe them here, but the basic principle is the same.

OctaPitch is the same as LBH except instead of Oscillators as the sound source you use audio and pitch-shift each step individually for some really whacked out results.

Wave 5 is a little sample-playback device where you can add loads of effects etc. Quite cute and pretty similar to the free one, so try it out.

i'm not sure what MiniHost is to be honest and haven't had time to look at it.

The Satellite Oscillators and Filters etc. offer a lot of scope ( :wink:) and i haven't even really looked into them all yet, there are loads with some really unique functions and too many of them to list here and Mehdi keeps adding new ones as he thinks them up. i haven't even scratched the surface of any of these yet.

Echo34 is THE delay, my first Space F purchase was Echo/Echo2m and this device goes from strength to super-strength. i think you know its reputation so all i need to say is every SCOPE user should have this.

So BB is a synth/effects/sequencer(sort of)/sound mangler mega-package.

Hope that helps a little.

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On 2005-02-23 07:50, Mr Arkadin wrote:
As a Black Box owner let me try and help (though i'm not sure about everything i've got yet either :lol:). Here are the main devices included in Black Box:
Wow... most impressive... makes me wonder if I should go for the entire package instead. Sounds like a bloody good deal.
Echo34 is THE delay, my first Space F purchase was Echo/Echo2m and this device goes from strength to super-strength. i think you know its reputation so all i need to say is every SCOPE user should have this.
Hmmm... I have tried Echo, but I must say I can't find it usable. I dunno why. I am completely addicted to the VST Ohmboys delay. Fantastic tool, and nobody would be happier than me if I could make use of my Scope DSPs instead... but it just doesn't tease my inspiration one second. Again. Dunno why...

Thanks for your excellent answer, by the way.

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On 2005-02-23 03:29, Ganool wrote:
After playing with it I was baffled to realize why I don't own any SpaceF-stuff. But it didn't take me more than a couple of minutes on your site to understand why.

I have no clue whats going on.

What is Black Box? Is it a synth? Effect? What's the difference between Syntetic and AN-Osc? Does _all_ your satellites come with AN-Osc, or is it just a few?

Sorry if I'm being a bit negative here. I feel AN-Osc is nearly as cool as Solaris (which is the king of kings) and I'd love to try it with my music. But as soon as I enter your site I just get bloody confused...

Carl.
I was going to say the exact same thing! The site is very confusing for me too because there arent any clear product descriptions or explanations how things are supposed to work together. It all sounds and looks pretty cool though and I will certainly get Echo if I have some spare cash again.

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...but after listening to the mp3 demos... this stuff just can't be bad. Guess I'll go for the entire Black Box package.

Carl.

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Hi all, sorry I was out all day. As I see, i still have a lot of job explaining everything.

To add to Mr Arkadin comments :
MiniHosts : those are really small synths with one oscillator slot and 1 or 2 filter slots (MiniHost I or II). However, I quickly found them too limited because there is only one LFO and limited modulation abilities, eventhough there is an envelope for each part of the synth (ie, one for Osc.Pitch, 1 for filter and one for the amp). They are still good for bass and simplistic sounds, but I think I will use AN-Osc much more, as it is still light but with wider capabilities and much better output.

Oceanic and Ulysse : those synth are immdiate modifications to the previous, freeware, version of Synthetic 5 (not deluxe). I just removed the included oscillators and replaced them with slots. The filters are different : one has uknow filters, and the other has the LP2442 lowpass filter (a 42 db slope lowpass filter with 24 db resonance).
They are included because they can do good things, but I actually did not make a lot of presets for them yet. They can load older presets from the synthetic freeware (from v 1.0 to v 5) better than SDX which can also load those old presets, but with variable results because after a while, i realized that trying to keep full compatibilty was limiting too much the design of SDX. So after a while, I just left the idea of full compatibility in order to have all the functions I wanted in that synth.

ECHO : ah, well, if that device doesn't appeal to you... :smile: I think it is quite different from the ohmforce delay, eventhough based on the same concept of filtered delays. I also upload the old preset banks (300 presets) and new presets made with the new Highpass filter (which will be available to echo34 users in a few day in the echo user area).

I have edited this post which contained info too long to read here, and that' i will probably copy on the website when it is updated.

mm, my tea is getting cold, and I have a lot of work writing for the website.

thank you for your critics and remarks, it is always welcome as a developper can sometimes forget how obscure a function can be for the one who did not design the machine.

see you soon :smile: (and sincere thanks).

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in a few words :
== BlackBox is a system allowing to change filters and oscillators by loading them into insert slots (like solaris/RD : both systems are compatible now (at the begining they were not, connections were reversed).
BlackBox includes Synthetic DX, which is the main dish, but also Echo delay effect, AN-Osc and additional devices such as the LBH (little big harps, very well explained by Mr Arkadin), MiniHosts and other synths or effects.
BlackBox includes all versions of the filters, ie, the Echo filters (called "echo sat or EC version) and the SDX filters (called Sdx version), which are basically the same, but do not work exactly the same due to different implementation in synths and effects.
But at the end all satellites can be loaded in any "hosts" (the synths and effect that acceptsuch oscillators and filters inserts).

The difference between echo-sat and sdx filters is because Echo modulations do not work the same as the synths modulations, and some filters had to be adapted to work better. Also, one user might prefer an echo sat version in such situation, and the other the sdx version. But in fact, all filters work in all hosts, with more or less differences wether they are loaded inside a synth or an effect. It is also a matter of giving the maximum choice to everyone.

=== ECHO34 : is a part of the blackbox which can be purchased seperately by those not intersted in synths. It comes only with its "Echo Sat" filters, and not the SDX filters (except the new HighPass which works the same in all and every host).

=== AN-Osc : the latest synth, which can also be purchased seperately by people with smaller budgets. It also comes with all oscillators and filters. Some oscillators have been redesigned especially for AN-OSc and are located in a "AN" folder inside the oscillator folder.
In any case: AN-Osc includes all the oscillators and filters listed here : http://www.spacef.com/img/OSCPICS/FILTERS/FILTERS.htm
and there http://www.spacef.com/img/OSCPICS/OSCILLATORS.htm

What you do not get with AN-OSC is the folder named "03-ECHO SAT FILTERS " because this is not necessary (and in any case, some of the echo-sat filters that work in the synths are also copied in the synth filters directory : Moonizers, Strange Phaser2, Voxalizer : those one work best as Echo Sat version and are simply copied in the synth filters directory. a special design for synths was not necessary for those ones.

The difference between ECHO SAT filters and SYNTH FILTERS is in the way modulation is received by the filters : with some of them it is ok to use any version, whereas some other work best with a special version for the synths (this is mainly due to different amplitude or offsets of frequencies inside synths or effects).

This difference between echo sats and synth filters is probably quite confusing : well, at the end of the day, everybody get the same filters. the various version were made only to get the best of the filters in such and such device.

These are preliminary info, I will update spacef.com for the end of the week with all the information I can give about all the packages, their content, how they work etc, as html pages (the forum, which was ok for small releases in the past, is simply not good anymore for the new releases).

Best regards
have a nice week :smile:

Mehdi

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