Native Instruments announces Battery 2...

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Tue Nov 16, 2004 2:53 am

Oh good, I'm getting this, and I am not spending another dime on any NI products. You you think the activation is easy... maybe so but wait until you have had to do it 10 times within a year for the same products over and over again.

Stige · Post by **Stige** » Tue Nov 16, 2004 7:45 am

On 2004-11-16 02:53, braincell wrote:
Oh good, I'm getting this, and I am not spending another dime on any NI products. You you think the activation is easy... maybe so but wait until you have had to do it 10 times within a year for the same products over and over again.

I'm already doing this with Sony (sonic foundry) products. These are examples, where using cracks would be morally justified. Online activation is nothing but making paying customer's life more difficult.
edit: My DAW will never be connected to internet.

[ This Message was edited by: Stige on 2004-11-16 07:47 ]

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 11:31 pm

I know... if you are fully registered is it imoral to use a crack for the same version you are registered for? It's a tempting thought for me too.

[ This Message was edited by: braincell on 2004-11-19 23:31 ]

Ricardo · Post by **Ricardo** » Sat Nov 20, 2004 7:57 am

Yep, gotta say you've all saved me lots of money in this thread. I just had a look at their site........ then read this post. As far as I'm concerned, you buy software, it's yours. None of this limited activation b***s***. As long as the DAW is registered to you there should be no limitations.
Sorry NI, you lost a customer. Sounds good though.

Stige · Post by **Stige** » Sat Nov 20, 2004 8:59 am

I believe, if a company is making it unreasonable difficult to use their legally paid products, customer has a right to use that product in a way it is not causing unreasonable disadvantage to him/her. If that product is paid, there is no harm to the company if crack is used instead. Using cracks for non paid products, I strictly condemn. I'm still activating my sound forge online via internet pc, as there is no stupid limits doing it. I don't have to beg on my knees to get a new licence. If my DAW gets messed up, I can reformat it without a fear I've lost my legal right to use that software, and I don't have to explain anybody why I needed to reformat.

Well, this all is not directly related to release of Battery 2, but i'd like to yet ask if anyone has fxpansion BFD? I'm considering buying it and would like to know if it has to be activated online?

Post by **hubird** » Sat Nov 20, 2004 9:19 am

On 2004-11-20 07:57, Ricardo wrote:
As far as I'm concerned, you buy software, it's yours.

then you should reread your license agreement.
It's said before many times here by others, you don't 'own' the software, you just get a license to use it.
You may make up your own 'rules', but remember, they just exist in your head

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Sat Nov 20, 2004 8:27 pm

but NI has been the biggest pain for me and I have bought a lot of software in my life.

darkrezin · Post by **darkrezin** » Sat Nov 20, 2004 9:23 pm

On 2004-11-20 08:59, Stige wrote:
Well, this all is not directly related to release of Battery 2, but i'd like to yet ask if anyone has fxpansion BFD? I'm considering buying it and would like to know if it has to be activated online?

No it does not - authorization is via serial number (and it totally rocks btw).

Ricardo · Post by **Ricardo** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 8:39 am

On 2004-11-20 09:19, hubird wrote:

then you should reread your license agreement.
It's said before many times here by others, you don't 'own' the software, you just get a license to use it.
You may make up your own 'rules', but remember, they just exist in your head

You misunderstood me Hubird. What i meant was, if I've bought the license then I shouldn't have problems re-installing it everytime something goes wrong. Eg. I can re-install SFP infinite times without a hassle..
HOWEVER things might be better with Battery 2.

Post by **hubird** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 8:54 am

I can agree totally with that

Post by **hubird** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 10:18 pm

After re-installing a new system OS some time ago I had to de-activate on of my two authorisations and re-register my Absynth2.

It took me an hour to do this, because I had to understand exactly what I was supposed to do, as de-activating the old ID can't be undone.

So I had to be sure the old ID had changed, it was a bit scary as the long range of numbers was partly the same as the newly constructed ID...

But it worked fine, if you're confident with the idea, it's a piece of cake

I think it's not really a showstopper, unless you consider your pc as a construction kit or a motorbike that should be unmounted weekly

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braincell · Post by **braincell** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 11:02 am

For me Drive Image seems to create the problem or that is my guess. I use it to revert to a previous image which helps me fix things and keep crap off my computer. I do this frequently and thus my computer is always in perfect health.

The activation and de-activation process is annoying with one product but if you have many of them it becomes a nightmare. That is why I'm not getting any by them anymore.

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Post by **hubird** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 4:45 pm

now that I know the procedure I can do it in a few minutes.
The only thing you have to be sure about is not to de-activate your active ID...

And even then some got it still re-activated after contacting NI.
After all I like the idea that it's hard to use a crack, as I payed the mony for it

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 11:06 pm

So it takes a few minutes for each instrument. I have 2 of their products installed on 2 computers. That means I have to do 8 procedures, and then it is even easier to de-activate something you want to keep active. After I pay the money I want to be left alone. Keeping the products safe from hackers is not my job. It is the job of the company. If they want me to do work for them, they need to pay me. I don't want to do it for free, no matter how good the product is.

[ This Message was edited by: braincell on 2004-11-30 23:08 ]

Post by **hubird** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 11:33 pm

as you want

it gives me anyway the decadent feeling of possessing a valuable thing.
My curiosity for the update makes that feeling even better.
It's all a matter of bright sight I guess

cheers.