A phaser with guts

Years ago I used to use a guitar pedal phaser on my old analog hardware. The effect was incredibly thick and rich.

Unfortunately *nothing* in SFP or native has ever come close to the power of that pedal.

Laying software phaser on too heavily just seems to produce huge amounts of resonant distortion and is quite woeful. Others are only marginally more powerful than a chorus.

Anyone who knows the "Metamatic" album by John Foxx will know the sort of phaser I'm talking about

Please, a super-heavy phaser effect....

agree !
like also the Boss SE70 faser, very characteristic and fat

I have one. it bleeds rather than "have guts". Sounds like some that you can hear on Bob Marley's "Uprising" (the LP). not sure it is very metamatic, it's not "spacey" (but it certainly has a lot of character and make you want to bite something Nothing to do with any digital phaser you've ever heard (even hardware). It is modulated by various sources, inluding enveloppe followers.
Can't be ready before next year though (unuseable by the common pulsar user : no gui, no controls for the moment... would take too much time to do now).

Reading your post: excited, pleased, very excited, ready to download, ready, ready...

Oh.

was just gonna add this one to the dust collector thread:

ibanez jetlyzer jt-70

two 4,5V batteries for two hours play time was a bit too much for a student at the time. still have it, but hasn't been played for about 8 years.

a nice vst fx is 'supaPhaser'. you can find it at the smartelectronix site

a nice vst fx is 'supaPhaser'. you can find it at the smartelectronix site

another heads up for the supaphaser, it's quite thick and has some nice tweaking abilities.

>>>was just gonna add this one to the dust collector thread:
ibanez jetlyzer jt-70
>>>>

would you send it to me ? (i never have enough phaser pedals) ?
I promiss i'll keep it clean and shiny and used

Great link Borg, thanks

Borg, I was kidding of course (well, if you really want....).
Best phaser that sounds like hardware (at least) ?
Stoned Phaser from Guitare Rig
http://www.nativeinstruments.de/index.php?guitarrig_us
(i just tested A/B tested again. now i'm sure of my statement)...
And yes, it is metamatic-able and (Cure-able too ). I guess that with all its capabilities, and additional components, it is bob marleyisable too...

I was going to suggest Superphaser too - you guys have beaten me to it

I tried SupaPhaser and didn't like it as well as Ultrafunk's Phaser which is now bundled in Sonar3 PE. I also liked the Timeworks one a lot, it's DirectX only though.

Shayne

I love the phaser coming with Vaz Modular and well ... most effects on VazMod not to mention that it's IMO the best sounding native synth since Version 3.

haven't tried these free vst fx yet, but read some good user reports. of course phaser is included...

Thank you Borg. Looking good.

SupaPhaser was good - better than most - but still not really gutsy like hardware...

yes agree ! I think it's the most difficult think to do . I keep my EH small stone....

https://forums.scopeusers.com/viewtopic ... tart=20&30

The phaser of the classic series is very good, at least for me.

i wonder if hiss, in pedals, is an important parameter for "realism" , it does add something most softwares don't (even though, some do include noise sims) ...
just a thought....

plus, a good phaser is always mono-->mono... (stereo phaser is bad eventhough i did some in the past, that i never liked nor used. sounds much, much thinner.. ahhh, user requests )
(but that's personal taste, you have the right to like stereo phasers. we're talking 'bout "phasers with guts which does it like john foxx metamatic" here, ie "old scholl" stuff ).

yes but one mono to mono phaser on each side of the stereo with different setting is miam miam !

Mehdi, I think you're right about the noise. My old foot-pedal was as coarse as hell, and only had three knobs, and was mono, but what a thick, sweet tone

Software phasers seem to specialise in having lots of knobs and controls, very few of which seem to have much effect

i re listened to my own phaser and it's much less good than i remembered. It's an "EPS16+ phaser" , cause the eps had a really badquality phaser but with interesting modulation shape with highresonance. It's not bad at all on reggae guitares though, but it's not something I feel ready to throw in the arena

I forgot to mention MobilOhm.
Has some guts but are they the proper ones ?
I like it because it goes in much wild areas too ... as many Ohmforce products !

Good hint decimator!
But Spirit has lasting impressions to the good old time. Once upon there was...

EDIT :
Have you tried the kjaerhusaudio.com stuff?
I like it really much, they have a good vintage style(algo) without noise though.
Let us build our own one? Must be possible, or?

and Borg, thanks for the Supaphaser tip, I didn't have it yet.
Alas the Kjaerhus fx-es are Windows only, they look very attractive.
Yet I won't switch platform...

Chris, the Kjaerhus phaser is quite nice though I still have a little more preference for the one that comes with Vaz Modular.

The Supaphaser can come to extremes, a good FX.

However my absolute winner is still MobilOhm, it sounds stronger and really pushes the envelope for " phasers and beyond "

I noticed on various FX bundles that the phaser is often missing, odd ...