## NUMBERS for everything

Device/Module Wishlist

Original topic on PlanetZ: https://forums.scopeusers.com/viewtopic.php?t=6733

####

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2002 12:29 pm
by Immanuel
Yes, to me numbers are far better than turning a virtual knob. Some settings have numbers, but some others do not. This is one of the reasons, why I do not like working with the masterverb - just to name one. I want to be able to dial in everything. I would gladly give away the turning knobs completely. To me working with numbers is much more creative (and precise). I spend less energy trying to twist the knob (possibly to possitions I have allready been at) and more just going thru the options.
NUMBERS ARE FAR BETTER.
Immanuel

####

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2002 3:52 pm
by alfonso
knobs AND numbers....
yes, numbers (expecially hz!) is what i miss sometimes....rated it 10.

####

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2002 3:07 am
by Spirit
Personally I prefer sliders and numbers

####

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2002 12:11 am
by j9k
are you talking about the text faders or just the dirrect text input?
what about a separate page like the effects in logic.
j9k

####

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2002 10:19 am
by braincell
Numbers and letters . Had to use C in the mixer quite a few times. It's almost impossible to center without the c.

####

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2002 1:56 pm
by Immanuel
Double clicking the pan gives you center position.
Immanuel

####

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2002 2:22 pm
by kensuguro
frequencies for filters in mod2!! (the rage continues)
YES, numbers and correct UNITS for everything, please. None of this "0-128 but you can't see the decimals, sorry" business. How uncreative!
I'd vote this a 100!

####

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2002 1:14 am
by Jngaelin
My god people !!!

> On 2002-08-19 13:29, Immanuel wrote:
> "I Would gladly give away the turning knobs completely"
> Immanuel

Beeing a "digitalizt" is one thing....but to give away knobs......?
I know they are not accurate....and i know they aren't real....
But accuracy....like that....
Do you acctually mean that music is supposed to be made matematicly ???
I thaught music came from feelings....
If the sound "feels" just right...then it is right.
Im okay with sliders and numbers or numbers and knobs....
But please...don't take away the knobs from me.....they are all i have...(soft irony)...
Okay....im quite sure that people are going to give me reasons why....
But noone can tell me that numbers are better then knobs.
When i produce....i do not work with my calculator.....i work with my heart !!!
Hope i didn't offend anyone by posting this reply
_________________
Love to you all =)
(I Praise JAH)

####

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2002 3:13 pm
by Immanuel
No offense taken from my side.
I myself prefer to work my music with feelings.
But I don't see the point in a round circle with a line having more feeling than a 3 (or more) digit number.
It is about different ways of "holding" the software. I have far more "number intuition" than "tiny round knob with a line intuition"
Immanuel

####

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2002 1:09 pm
by at0m
I totally agree. Buttons are cool, cos the programmer can use different slopes etc. to make the values as much as possible in 'useable range'. Midi divides in 128 values, while 128 often makes for way to big steps. CW stuff seems be able to calculate with much more extended ranges. Like Ken's search for 'actual frequency values for filters'. Would be very nice.

####

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2002 1:45 am
by Neutron
In most cases you could be accommodated. including the different curves for knobs. unfortunately the text boxes have to be changed by the developer to make them take negative numbers.
It is not that hard to have both a knob and a number, it is just deciding if a certain knob is fine as a knob or better with a value attached as well.
Defilter for example is a filter (although not readily available) that shows the actual filter freq, and you can enter it . some controls on it do go from 0 to 127 because their is not a proper value that can be entered (such as "q").
what would you put as a "proper" measurement of wet-dry mix for example? i would think 0 to 127 would be the best because we already use those values in a sequencer.