## Scope 7.X Wishlist

Device/Module Wishlist

Original topic on PlanetZ: https://forums.scopeusers.com/viewtopic.php?t=35274

#### Scope 7.X Wishlist

Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 6:39 am
by yayajohn
I would really like the ability to assign a device to 2 simultaneous DSP's on the same slot. (Xite)
Prob not possible but it can't hurt to ask

#### Re: Scope 7.X Wishlist

Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 11:48 am
by dante
. Bug Fixes Only - no new features or devices.
. STS Stability (if possible)
. Improved installer - consistent across clean installs as well as upgrades, XITE and XITE-1D.
. More intuitive CC Assignment & Recall
. Better diagnostic errors that lead to more chance of isolating an issue.
. Updated manual with consolidated hints and tips from Z and S|C sites etc.

#### Re: Scope 7.X Wishlist

Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 12:29 pm
by sunmachine
I think I don't need many new stuff, either.
Some little things would be nice to have, though:
- A quick device search feature similar to the Windows search box or Spotlight on macOS:
Hitting space or something opens a window where you can (fuzzy) search for a device.
Then hit enter to load that device. Should work for inserts as well.
- Search feature for presets
- Switchable order of inserts in Mixers
- Ability to change the color of the background, modules, cables and so on.
If we could save those settings in presets we could change them easily (a dark one for the night and a light one for the day for example)
- Remote control of screensets (switching and maybe creating and deleting them)

#### Re: Scope 7.X Wishlist

Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 12:54 pm
by cortone
Zoom in/out of Project Window.
Ability to create circuits off-line (away from hardware) in SDK, with verification requiring the hardware and license.

#### Re: Scope 7.X Wishlist

Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 5:16 pm
by JoPo
- Midi cc range promising feature working ! This knob that I dream it works since almost 20 years !

  midi rge.jpg (16.47 KiB) Viewed 8434 times

- Values showing up back again by leaving the mouse upon knobs.
- Mouse wheel scrolling up/down the project window correctly (and all scrolling menus)
- Any device following screensets
- Holger comes on Z, at least for reading.

#### Re: Scope 7.X Wishlist

Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 5:22 pm
by JoPo

> sunmachine wrote:- Ability to change the color of the background, modules, cables and so on.
> If we could save those settings in presets we could change them easily (a dark one for the night and a light one for the day for example)

I forgot that one !

#### Re: Scope 7.X Wishlist

Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 7:44 pm
by Bud Weiser

> dante wrote:. Bug Fixes Only - no new features or devices.
> . STS Stability (if possible)
> . Improved installer - consistent across clean installs as well as upgrades, XITE and XITE-1D.
> . More intuitive CC Assignment & reliable* Recall
> . Better diagnostic errors that lead to more chance of isolating an issue.
> . Updated manual with consolidated hints and tips from Z and S|C sites etc.

1.)
* cannot be stressed enough IMO
2.)
I agree 200% on all the points above !!!
Bud

#### Re: Scope 7.X Wishlist

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 2:59 am
by Ripper

> dante wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 11:48 am . Bug Fixes Only - no new features or devices.
> . STS Stability (if possible)
> . Improved installer - consistent across clean installs as well as upgrades, XITE and XITE-1D.
> . More intuitive CC Assignment & Recall
> . Better diagnostic errors that lead to more chance of isolating an issue.
> . Updated manual with consolidated hints and tips from Z and S|C sites etc.

All these + colours and that modulation knob.
Thank you.

#### Re: Scope 7.X Wishlist

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 4:51 am
by JoPo

> dante wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 11:48 am . Updated manual with consolidated hints and tips from Z and S|C sites etc.

I didn't see that one ! Updated manuals are essential for new Scope users ! And old users too : a SDK 7 full manual is really essential ! Ah ! If SDK pro users would have the courage to write one, I would pay 50€ for a complete, clear one !

#### Re: Scope 7.X Wishlist

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:13 am
by garyb
50euro would begin to repay someone for that work. that would be a labor of love indeed.

#### Re: Scope 7.X Wishlist

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:16 pm
by RA
Most of the sdk manuals are gone forever! Period...and the shitty thing....for a developer the most critical (perhaps....we don't actually know if all was documented...)
There are the pdfs that came with the sdk releases...that is what is there. Those, along with a reader put together by sonicstrav is all there is....the rest is just....putting in time to learn, trial...error....and accepting a lot is just gone. The CW days are over thus the knowledge that was there. I have tried to come in contact with several people over the years...no one has anything to share...people have moved on. A lot of trying and figuring out atoms is required...common sense...to boldly try what no one has tried before....
We even tried enabling a v3 DP for scripting purposes but older keygens for that are gone. As you see...on the backend....when there was stated that CW left a mess...that wasnt exaggerated.
Maybe some day someone will open a pandoras box...but i think anyone in sdk nowadays learned it the hard way....if i am wrong and there are some magic docs out there....PLEASE FOR GODSAKE...SHARE THEM WITH ME ALSO....I STILL HAVE THINGS I WANT TO KNOW HOW TO DO WITH THE SDK
The manuals that are there arent that bad...a lot of info is in there...but you realize it after a certain learning curve. And....find the sonicstrav docs! I will check later on where i have them and will put them up. Not up to date...but you will figure it out...if not...then sdk is just not for you. Sorry to say it in a blunt way.
YEAH...found it on the NAS's RAID....good to double backup whahaha

Shroomz SDK Docs.pdf
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Edit: pdf seems to be compiled by sonicstrav, will change the pdfs name asap. SORRY for this mistake. Credits to Sonicstrav!

#### Re: Scope 7.X Wishlist

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:32 pm
by Sounddesigner

> RA wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:16 pm Most of the sdk manuals are gone forever! Period...and the shitty thing....for a developer the most critical (perhaps....we don't actually know if all was documented...)
> There are the pdfs that came with the sdk releases...that is what is there. Those, along with a reader put together by shroomz is all there is....the rest is just....putting in time to learn, trial...error....and accepting a lot is just gone. The CW days are over thus the knowledge that was there. I have tried to come in contact with several people over the years...no one has anything to share...people have moved on. A lot of trying and figuring out atoms is required...common sense...to boldly try what no one has tried before....
> We even tried enabling a v3 DP for scripting purposes but older keygens for that are gone. As you see...on the backend....when there was stated that CW left a mess...that wasnt exaggerated.
> Maybe some day someone will open a pandoras box...but i think anyone in sdk nowadays learned it the hard way....if i am wrong and there are some magic docs out there....PLEASE FOR GODSAKE...SHARE THEM WITH ME ALSO....I STILL HAVE THINGS I WANT TO KNOW HOW TO DO WITH THE SDK
> The manuals that are there arent that bad...a lot of info is in there...but you realize it after a certain learning curve. And....find the shroomz docs! I will check later on where i have them and will put them up. Not up to date...but you will figure it out...if not...then sdk is just not for you. Sorry to say it in a blunt way.
> YEAH...found it on the NAS's RAID....good to double backup whahaha
> Shroomz SDK Docs.pdf
> I guess someone owes Shroomz 50eu

Have you contacted Warp69? He mentioned he had some of the original DP Manual and uploaded some of its files in a link below. Also Wolf has info. Don't know how usefull any of this info is, but Warp69 is a oldtime developer who's still around and has some of the old files from long ago.
Wolf gives SDK tips here - http://wolf-audio.com/wad/scope-dp/scope-dp.html
Warp69 and another posted files with SDK info here - ../development/24353.html?start=40
EDIT- Fixed broken links .

#### Re: Scope 7.X Wishlist

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 8:57 pm
by dehuszar
I would love to see developer hooks that are accessible via JavaScript. Being able to insert and connect devices, get and set their parameters would be amazing. Given how flexible the web as a layout system is, and how robust web-audio and web-midi are getting, it would be pretty easy to create some bananas UI dashboards for communicating with the Scope environment if the hooks existed.