## Note Triggered MIDI CC Envelope or Ramp

Device/Module Wishlist

Original topic on PlanetZ: https://forums.scopeusers.com/viewtopic.php?t=36907

#### Note Triggered MIDI CC Envelope or Ramp

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 2:00 pm
by yayajohn
Wondering if there's anything already out there similiar to this one by j9k but with some extra features (Scope device only please)
https://sites.google.com/site/j9kj9kj9k ... ects=0&d=1
-Note triggered
-select sync up to 2 bars or time >5000 ms
For example I want to tap a note on my keyboard/drum pad and have it open my AUX effects send in 2 bars time from fully closed to fully open
without having to hold the note down.
I understand that any modern DAW is capable of this with automation so please don't respond with that answer, thanks

#### Re: Note Triggered MIDI CC Envelope or Ramp

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 4:24 pm
by dante
Maybe something could be done in Modular with EG controlling a VCA? Not sure about the tempo sync but tho

#### Re: Note Triggered MIDI CC Envelope or Ramp

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:03 am
by yayajohn
Yeah I guess I could rig it up through a modular shell. Might have a go at that.

#### Re: Note Triggered MIDI CC Envelope or Ramp

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:14 am
by Spielraum
v1 [ ] Delay of Note Off Event?
v2 [ ] or should a note-off event with a delay be generated by a trigger (Note On event)?

#### Re: Note Triggered MIDI CC Envelope or Ramp

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:52 pm
by yayajohn
Hmm not sure but I don't want it to trigger back to 0 after you release the note. I was thinking of the ability to choose a separate midi note to close the AUX send either immediately or over the same selectable time.
I spent the morning muddling around in modular. There seemed to be some possibilities but I haven't quite put it all together yet.
I'm a little bit rusty with the modular right now.
Are you thinking of a modular patch or a device Spielraum?
So this whole idea started when I was jamming along and I wanted to slowly add my aux effects and of course I can just use an expression pedal for that but that requires extra brain power and foot coordination. So I thought it would be a lot easier if I could just hit a pad to trigger the ramp up to slowly blend in the effects and then hit another pad to slowly blend them out sort of like the way a leslie rotor speeds up and slows down.

#### Re: Note Triggered MIDI CC Envelope or Ramp

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 3:33 pm
by dante
Like a triggered autowah

#### Re: Note Triggered MIDI CC Envelope or Ramp

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 10:50 pm
by Spielraum
v3 [x] Note2trig+hld2CC

> yayajohn wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:52 pm ...hit a pad to trigger the ramp up to slowly blend in the effects and then hit another pad to slowly blend them out...

SR-module v1,2,3, good idea, will see.
say yes, if you need what a module!
i think dante is right. eg:
+
when hold time enought
+
+
>EG Out over Range to D2 In
set D1 to your Destination Midi CC
.
..
.

> dante wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 3:33 pm Like a triggered autowah

have you an example? basicly SC-wahwah?
v0 [ ] trig Depth or Mod Phase or Both or switchable?
v1 [ ] Midi Note On to Retrig?
v2 [ ] Midi CC Threshld to Retrig?
v3 [ ] Sync Val Threshld to Retrig?

#### Re: Note Triggered MIDI CC Envelope or Ramp

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 6:19 am
by yayajohn

> Spielraum wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 10:50 pm v3 [x] Note2trig+hld2CC

> > yayajohn wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:52 pm ...hit a pad to trigger the ramp up to slowly blend in the effects and then hit another pad to slowly blend them out...

> SR-module v1,2,3, good idea, will see.
> say yes, if you need what a module!
> i think dante is right. eg:
> +
> when hold time enought
> +
> +
> >EG Out over Range to D2 In
> set D1 to your Destination Midi CC
> .
> ..
> .

> > dante wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 3:33 pm Like a triggered autowah

> have you an example? basicly SC-wahwah?
> v0 [ ] trig Depth or Mod Phase or Both or switchable?
> v1 [ ] Midi Note On to Retrig?
> v2 [ ] Midi CC Threshld to Retrig?
> v3 [ ] Sync Val Threshld to Retrig?

Thanks! I will give it a try.

#### Re: Note Triggered MIDI CC Envelope or Ramp

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 1:31 pm
by dante

> Spielraum wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 10:50 pm

> > dante wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 3:33 pm Like a triggered autowah

> have you an example? basicly SC-wahwah?

Nah no example - my Modular chops are lame But conceptually my starting point was to think of a synth but instead of an oscillator passing thru the VCA its just a normal audio signal. And the ADSR slow at all ADSR points - or like you mentioned something to 'hold' it open until a second midi trigger. There's a modular module MVC C to convert note on to CV (I think) so maybe assign one note to start and another note to close. I know this is a bit vague but like I said bout my Modular chops

#### Re: Note Triggered MIDI CC Envelope or Ramp

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 7:27 pm
by yayajohn
Here is the result of the days labors. Much thanks to Spielraum for helping me get started.
I have this set to control the AUx send 1 dial in the STM2448 mixer. NN22 triggers it to open very slowly and stays open with an ENV loop to basically infinity haha. Then NN22 will close it per the decay set in the AD Vintage. Any other note will close it immediately.
https://youtu.be/Ce5L5UjT9iI

  MIDINotetoCCEnvelope.jpg (87.12 KiB) Viewed 2781 times

Instructions:
-Set your note on and off numbers in the gateSwitcher
-Set your CC output with the R8 CtrlA dial
-Adjust your Envelopes as desired.
Prob not going to ever get it to sync per bar but this will do for now.
Hope it works for you. Haven't been in modular in a while so I probably screwed something up or did something that will make you scratch your head so comments and suggestions are welcome.
it was a fun day.
Cheers
Dan

#### Re: Note Triggered MIDI CC Envelope or Ramp

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 3:09 am
by valis
Per bar is easier if you have Flexor3.

#### Re: Note Triggered MIDI CC Envelope or Ramp

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 5:47 am
by yayajohn

> valis wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 3:09 am Per bar is easier if you have Flexor3.

Tried some Ramps (including Flexor3) but it resets and repeats. I've never set up a sequencer patch in modular so I'm unfamiliar.
Is there another module you are thinking of?

#### Re: Note Triggered MIDI CC Envelope or Ramp

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 6:54 am
by yayajohn
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#### Re: Note Triggered MIDI CC Envelope or Ramp

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:06 am
by Spielraum
du wirst warm? thats nice!
> N2X |MODULES #Spielraum >
https://forums.scopeusers.com/viewtopic.php?p=349901#p349901

#### Re: Note Triggered MIDI CC Envelope or Ramp

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:08 pm
by yayajohn
Thank you. You are awesome!