## Following on from the Prophet Plus

Device/Module Wishlist

Original topic on PlanetZ: https://forums.scopeusers.com/viewtopic.php?t=12996

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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 10:09 am
by Evotim
On my wish list to be developed for the Pulsar platform
1: CS80
2: Elka Synthex
3: Oberheim OBSX/ OB8 / Matrix 12
4: Roland Jupiter 8 ( Very doubtful as its on the Roland VariOS already)
5: Access Virus
6: Solina String Machine
Anyone got any thoughts on these?

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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 11:15 am
by ChrisWerner
Hmm, not a bad list but I would like to see something new and not always those copies or emulations. From my view the market is overfilled with those kind of synths, timefor something new.

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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 7:23 pm
by johnbowen
Hi Evotim,
High quality, accurate emulations such as these are not going to happen for some time, as they require LOTS of analysis and hand coding of the DSPs (which is not available to us 3rd parties), and many, many hours of work! It's doubtful that the ROI would be worth it - I heard the Minimoog research and emulation CW did represented an incredible amount of money & time, which was never recouped by Minimax sales.

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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 3:00 am
by enumeratus

> On 2004-06-14 20:23, johnbowen wrote:
> Hi Evotim,
> High quality, accurate emulations such as these are not going to happen for some time, as they require LOTS of analysis and hand coding of the DSPs (which is not available to us 3rd parties), and many, many hours of work! It's doubtful that the ROI would be worth it - I heard the Minimoog research and emulation CW did represented an incredible amount of money & time, which was never recouped by Minimax sales.

Hey John - where did you get that rumour?
Do you REALLY think the Minimax wasn't a success (even in sales)?

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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 3:38 am
by valis
I would say it was mostly a success from the standpoint of being the first really powerful sounding synth to emerge from Creamware for their products. It really raised the bar for the platform and gave Creamware something to tout in reviews (and their demos). As for it not being afinancial success, let's hope that the story isn't over yet...
As for new synths I would tend to agree with ChrisWerner. Its not that clone synths or synths 'inspired by' classic synths aren't nice, but the market is becoming saturated with these and eventually there will be at least 1-2 clones for most of the more interesting/successful synths of the 20th century. Not necessarily a bad thing, and certainly the best parts of that technology should be incorporated in new endeavors. However to truly make a mark in the 21st century I would think its necessary to also explore sound design techniques that are only possible with today's technology (both present and emerging).